spider x spider article

[Mada]

http://www.herpnation.com/2016/01/20...-super-spider/

read artical, tell me if this guy is nutz or if he is right?

[PitOnTheProwl]

About?

[Kokorobosoi]

Are you asking if the "super" gene defect is the same in both species? Are you asking if a super spider exists? Or did I completely miss your point?

[Mada]

asking if the guy who wrote the article is a wack job or if he is giving out the truth. he is saying that the lungs of super spiders wont develop and that they will always die while in the egg or possibly in the egg while its still in the female and being absorbed. his data seems to not come from ball pythons but another species that has according to him the same gene mutation. I'm just wanting to know if any one knows of any evidence that backs up his clams or is he jumping the gun because he has seen this in another species. while some gene mutations are cross species such as albino does this mean that spider x spider is fatal or is he full of it?

[PitOnTheProwl]

Many spiderXspider clutches do not make it.
Through there are breeders out there that have not had problems too.

[Kokorobosoi]

Browsing his other articles, many were of contested or unpopular topics. Honestly he struck me as someone posting inflammatory articles to boost his views. What could have been interesting to me, was buried under his assertions and insinuations as to breeders hiding info. Personally, he didn't appeal to me.

[MarkS]

While Nick Mutton is rare in the herp trade because he has real scientific training, this piece strikes me more of an opinion based article rather then straight forward fact. If that picture of the alleged super spider is an actual super spider and not just an unfortunate combination with another mutation, then it's the first one I've ever heard of. I'm not saying that he's wrong, but I would have thought that we'd have seen more proof of it by now.

[Kokorobosoi]

Huh. A browse didn't show me that. Maybe Ill google him and take a closer look. I saw a lot of opinion, with very little data. I would be very interested in a more scientific view and writing. Maybe this was just a blurb?

[Albert Clark]

You only get on "herp nation" as a speaker or writer unless you have some credentials. I really believe his research is fact based and he is well respected as a breeder of most subspecies of carpet pythons. He is known also for the quality of his animals. This is a topic that has quite a bit of controversy depending on who you speak to. Lol.

[Kokorobosoi]

LOL ty for clearing that up for me I did see all the controversy, a whole lot of it. Now Ill have to wade through it to sate the curiosity!

*rolls up sleeves and gets to reading*