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    Re: What morph is mine?

    Oh I see. I actually factored everything into the picture, except for the part about it eating something it shouldn't. Thanks for the insight. Didn't cross my mind.


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    Re: What morph is mine?

    Quote Originally Posted by SamuelWitwicky View Post
    Oh I see. I actually factored everything into the picture, except for the part about it eating something it shouldn't. Thanks for the insight. Didn't cross my mind.


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    Re: What morph is mine?

    I'm still in the midst of setting up the cage. I've got a 40"x20"X11" container and have put a box for it to hide. Still building a cage the area I live in is constantly humid and hot because I stay near the equator.


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    What morph is mine?

    Quote Originally Posted by frostysBP View Post
    I would need to see good full body shots to help you any.not seeing lesser tho.

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    Hey I have the pictures now

    Head:


    Body:


    Belly:


    Other distinguishing marks:


    One more in case:


    Please let me know if the pictures aren't good enough! I followed the directions posted in the stickies


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    Last edited by SamuelWitwicky; 10-13-2015 at 10:50 AM.

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    Nice pics! I'm no good to help figure out the genes, but I love her pattern! Pretty girl.

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    What did they tell you it was when you bought it?
    Het maybe but there isn't any type of hypo in there (blacks are too dark) and I don't think I am seeing any axanthic either.

    I don't think its a normal but it is until proven otherwise.

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    Re: What morph is mine?

    It was given to me because the previous owner couldn't keep it. So if it's a het, the black should be lighter ie grey? Also when you guys say het you mean hypno or ghost?

    And thanks Aercadia!


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    Re: What morph is mine?

    Hypo (short for hypomelanistic, meaning "lacking black pigmentation") and Ghost are synonymous, used interchangeably. A Hypo/Ghost BP will look "washed out" because of the faded black color.

    Axanthic is a similar trait, but instead of fading out the black pigmentation, it reduces the red/yellow pigmentation. An Axanthic BP will look black & white as a baby, though some will become more brown with age.

    Hypo/Ghost, and Axanthic, are both recessive traits, meaning you need two copies (homozygous, meaning 2-of-the-same) of the gene to get the visual effect. If an animal has only one copy (heterozygous, usually shortened to Het, meaning not-the-same) of the gene, it will not display.

    Your girl's pigmentation is not washed out (so she's not a visual Hypo/Ghost), and she isn't black & white (so she isn't a visual Axanthic), but it is possible that she could carry ONE copy of either gene (Het for Hypo/Ghost, or Het for Axanthic) and you wouldn't be able to tell, just by looking at her.

    The only way to know would be to find out from the breeder who produced the animal, what genes were in both parents - that will give you a good idea of what genes are in your snake - visual, or hiding.

    If you don't have access to the breeder, you could try "proving out" the animal by breeding your snake to another snake with the recessive gene you think it carries. Ex: if you believe your snake carries the Hypo gene, breed it to a visual Hypo. If your snake carries the gene, it will pass it to some of the babies, resulting in a clutch of mixed visuals - some will look normal, some will be visual Hypo - that will prove that your animal carries a hidden gene. If none of the babies come out with a visual for the recessive, then your snake isn't hiding anything.
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    Re: What morph is mine?

    Quote Originally Posted by SamuelWitwicky View Post
    It was given to me because the previous owner couldn't keep it. So if it's a het, the black should be lighter ie grey? Also when you guys say het you mean hypno or ghost?
    NO, none of the above.
    If it was hypo the black should be lighter.

    Het meaning only 1/2 of the recessive gene so the visual is normal. For a recessive to show it needs to carry both copies of the gene.

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    Re: What morph is mine?

    @Aercadia thanks a lot that was very informative and I really appreciate it.


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