Please Help I found a snake spinoff aka The great pine debate

[shaneswife828]

You can use pine as substrate.

From a vet tech stand point pine and cedar both are bad for almost all animals. For rodents we recommended care fresh, aspen, or shredded newspaper(yesterdays news works as well). for ball pythons and the likes we recommended coconut fiber, reptile carpet, birch bark, newspaper,paper towels, aspen, and such. Pine and cedar have oils in them that are harmful. They can cause respiratory issues, skin and scale issues, and worse. I have snakes come in with damaged ventral scales do to the pine bedding their owner was using. After switching from the pine the problem stopped. Any "good" reptile owner will tell you to avoid pine at all cost as well as cedar. I have a feeling more people will agree with me rather than disagree. A quick google search will tell you that both cedar and pine are not good substrate for any animal whether it be mammalian or reptilian.

[Skiploder]

I have 21 snakes on pine. There are people on here ("good" people, too) who have kept snakes on pine for much longer than you or I.

What the hell do you know? From a vet tech standpoint, you are a substrate loser.

Apparently, so am I.

[Citrus]

What the hell do you know? From a vet tech standpoint, you are a substrate loser.

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It's about to go down!


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[DVirginiana]

That is easily the most terrifying picture I've seen in a long time...

[200xth]

*deleted because I may have misread something*

[Skiploder]

*deleted because I may have misread something*

I would expect a complete lack of reading comprehension from someone misguided enough to use pine.

[200xth]

I would expect a complete lack of reading comprehension from someone misguided enough to use pine.

Careful. You're gonna end up being cited as a source for pine being dangerous to snakes.

[Citrus]

Derailed threads are interesting


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[Skiploder]

Careful. You're gonna end up being cited as a source for pine being dangerous to snakes.

I've moved on.

I use sand paper and glass. No more shedding issues.

I dare you to google it...no bad reviews so it must be good.

[Lizardlicks]

Jeez guys, I look away for 5 minutes...