Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 3,320

3 members and 3,317 guests
Most users ever online was 6,337, 01-24-2020 at 04:30 AM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,100
Threads: 248,542
Posts: 2,568,763
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, Scott L.
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 14 of 14
  1. #11
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    07-20-2014
    Location
    Western WA
    Posts
    368
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 113 Times in 75 Posts
    Images: 32

    Re: Is banana/coral glow sex linked?

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Simple actually. Birds, some insects, some reptiles and a few others use a ZW sex determining system in the ovum, which is in contrast to the XY and XO system which uses sperm.
    This particular sex determining factor regarding Bananas/CG only pertains and is linked to the banana/cg phenotype which is why the normal offspring void of this genetic defect are not affected by it. It also only affects male Banana/cg which again shows that it is indeed a SEX linked gene.

    There has been a few fish, some insects as well as some human diseases which act in a very similar if not exact way.

    Even though the "normal" is XY, XO or ZW one can also have many combinations and many defects. So things like XXY, XXXy, XXYY, XXYYY, XaYa, etc.
    Ok, I understand how normals wouldn't be affected, but I'm still confused on why female bananas wouldn't be affected if it is carried on a sex chromosome. Females and males have at least one Z, so wouldn't that mean they would both be affected? Also, you haven't answered the question of whether that would mean only males could be super bananas. Do you have examples of particular species that act in this manner? I think I'll understand your theory better after this is clarified.
    0.1 Onyx Pastel
    0.1 Bumblebee Het Red Axanthic
    0.1 Cinnamon Fire
    0.1 Mahogany
    0.1 Mojave Bumblebee
    0.1 Super Pastel Pinstripe
    0.1 Super Pastel Spinner
    0.1 Sherbert Fly
    0.1 Calico
    0.1 Mojave
    1.0 SuperFly
    1.0 Enchi Lesser Spider (possible pastel)
    1.0 Pastel Vanilla
    1.0 GHI Het Red Axanthic

    0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
    1.0 Albino Corn Snake ("temporarily" caring for him)

  2. #12
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    08-31-2011
    Posts
    647
    Thanks
    193
    Thanked 425 Times in 261 Posts
    Images: 21

    Re: Is banana/coral glow sex linked?

    Here is why I believe that banana is not a sex-linked (Z-linked) gene.

    If the banana gene is located in a Z chromosome, it would work like this: A normal male has 2 normal Z chromosomes. It does not matter which Z chromosome the father gives a baby because both are normal. Banana female has a Z chromosome with a banana gene and a W chromosome. Mating these produces males with a normal Z chromosome (from father) paired with a Z chromosome with a banana gene (from mother) and females with a normal Z chromosome (from father) and a W chromosome (from the mother).

    Father --- Z
    mother
    Z ------- ZZ (male)
    W------- ZW (female)

    In other words, all babies from the above cross must be either banana males or normal females.

    But breeding results say that a normal male and a banana female produce normal males, normal females, banana males and banana females. So banana cannot be Z linked.

    I know this has nothing to do with male maker and female maker males. But the above mating is the easiest way to prove that a gene is not Z linked.

    As for multiple sex chromosomes, I will wait for someone to count the chromosomes before I am convinced.

  3. #13
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    08-31-2011
    Posts
    647
    Thanks
    193
    Thanked 425 Times in 261 Posts
    Images: 21

    Re: Is banana/coral glow sex linked?

    As for the question of super bananas. If banana was Z linked, then only males could be super bananas. Because by definition, a super banana has two banana genes. One would be in one Z chromosome and the other is in the second Z chromosome of the male. As a female has only one Z chromosome, she has only one banana gene.
    Last edited by paulh; 01-07-2015 at 08:07 PM.

  4. #14
    BPnet Veteran
    Join Date
    07-20-2014
    Location
    Western WA
    Posts
    368
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 113 Times in 75 Posts
    Images: 32
    Just out of curiosity, are there any records of female super bananas being produced? It's looking to me like banana is not sex linked, but the more evidence the better. It seems to me that a female super banana would be absolute proof.

    Also, is there anybody that has evidence towards banana being sex linked? It'd be nice to see both sides of this debate.
    0.1 Onyx Pastel
    0.1 Bumblebee Het Red Axanthic
    0.1 Cinnamon Fire
    0.1 Mahogany
    0.1 Mojave Bumblebee
    0.1 Super Pastel Pinstripe
    0.1 Super Pastel Spinner
    0.1 Sherbert Fly
    0.1 Calico
    0.1 Mojave
    1.0 SuperFly
    1.0 Enchi Lesser Spider (possible pastel)
    1.0 Pastel Vanilla
    1.0 GHI Het Red Axanthic

    0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa
    1.0 Albino Corn Snake ("temporarily" caring for him)

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1