Is It Possible To Make a Profit in 4 Years?

[BPavery]

Is it possible to make a profit in only four years with a couple males and a few females?


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[PitOnTheProwl]

No

[BPavery]

No

Ok


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[brock lesser]

No

This is the most honest answer yet.
lmao!!!
A small percentage might but most don't ever see a profit
because by the four year mark their gone.

[alan12013]

I've looked into this... Short answer is that unless you are smarter than the smartest person I've ever met I would say no. I'm sure that there is some rainmaker person out there that could learn all the morphs in a sitting and then pick the perfect pairs based off of a billion variables and make a profit mega fast.

I haven't bred yet but I have spent some time crunching numbers. I've also researched a lot about snakes lately and the one thing that I seem to keep learning is how much more there is to learn. So there is also the learning aspect of it from the business side and from the actual snake expertise side of it. You need very good knowledge in both areas and that doesn't come over night and for some it will never come because of any number of reasons.

Define what you mean by profit also because some people could look at it different. If you tally every penny spent from day one until the day that your books are in the green then at a normal pace assuming you're not going at this like Donald Trump then year 4 would be where the curve starts to level out and maybe tip upwards (but I doubt it) but still in the red. That question actually hurts my brain so if you could elaborate more that would help. What male and what females are we talking about? Are you asking using the model 2 males and 4 females then which snakes would make the most ROI and how long would it take? What if one gets sick? What if the female lays duds? What if you get bad luck and hatch all normals? What if the quality isn't good and you can only sell locally on craigslist? Like I said too many variables and I'd still say no.

[BPavery]

I've looked into this... Short answer is that unless you are smarter than the smartest person I've ever met I would say no. I'm sure that there is some rainmaker person out there that could learn all the morphs in a sitting and then pick the perfect pairs based off of a billion variables and make a profit mega fast.

I haven't bred yet but I have spent some time crunching numbers. I've also researched a lot about snakes lately and the one thing that I seem to keep learning is how much more there is to learn. So there is also the learning aspect of it from the business side and from the actual snake expertise side of it. You need very good knowledge in both areas and that doesn't come over night and for some it will never come because of any number of reasons.

Define what you mean by profit also because some people could look at it different. If you tally every penny spent from day one until the day that your books are in the green then at a normal pace assuming you're not going at this like Donald Trump then year 4 would be where the curve starts to level out and maybe tip upwards (but I doubt it) but still in the red. That question actually hurts my brain so if you could elaborate more that would help. What male and what females are we talking about? Are you asking using the model 2 males and 4 females then which snakes would make the most ROI and how long would it take? What if one gets sick? What if the female lays duds? What if you get bad luck and hatch all normals? What if the quality isn't good and you can only sell locally on craigslist? Like I said too many variables and I'd still say no.

So I was thinking about getting two or three multi gene males (Lesser Bee, Pewter, BEL, Lemonblast) and breeding them to some mature single gene females that would produce some unique morphs that aren't produced often. I guess my question is, can I make a profit (in two years when males mature) off of about eight to ten clutches? I know there would be problems like you mentioned, but is it possible? The reason for being limited to four years is, in four years, future circumstances will keep me from breeding until about two years later. Thanks for your help!


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[PitOnTheProwl]

So I was thinking about getting two or three multi gene males (Lesser Bee, Pewter, BEL, Lemonblast) and breeding them to some mature single gene females that would produce some unique morphs that aren't produced often. I guess my question is, can I make a profit (in two years when males mature) off of about eight to ten clutches? I know there would be problems like you mentioned, but is it possible? The reason for being limited to four years is, in four years, future circumstances will keep me from breeding until about two years later. Thanks for your help!

You would then be producing base morphs that everyone already produces as fallout to trying to produce multigenes.
This also doesn't include the vast amounts of normal you would produce and take a loss on.

[alan12013]

You would then be producing base morphs that everyone already produces as fallout to trying to produce multigenes.
This also doesn't include the vast amounts of normal you would produce and take a loss on.

On top of this... If you breed and sell morphs you can get away with selling very common morphs like the bumble bee that are not high quality at all locally if your market can handle 200-300 dollar price tags. Trying to sell a more rare morph you will be selling to a different audience and they will actually care about quality so assume you did buy quality to start with... after calculating for SOME of the variables you still would not come close to a profit but you would get some nice cash flow back from your hobby.

[BPavery]

On top of this... If you breed and sell morphs you can get away with selling very common morphs like the bumble bee that are not high quality at all locally if your market can handle 200-300 dollar price tags. Trying to sell a more rare morph you will be selling to a different audience and they will actually care about quality so assume you did buy quality to start with... after calculating for SOME of the variables you still would not come close to a profit but you would get some nice cash flow back from your hobby.

Cash flow is something I don't want because I would still be slowly losing money. But you're right, it would be better than nothing because it is just a hobby. There's not many hobbies that give you cash flow.


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[Ransack]

It's a saturated market. You have to have a plan to differentiate yourself. Right now it's akin to entering the TV or soft drink market space. If you are not getting in on a brand new cutting edge project, what is your hook?

Also I notice some people going all in and buying like it's 5-6 years ago, for example there is this one woman I notice when I check the auction sites and she is buying single gene Pastels and Pinstripes in the 100-200 gram range etc. in quantity...stuff like that.

As a buyer and hobbiest, I don't care if I ever make a penny, I love snakes, I love morph breeding. I want to buy from a seller that clearly and concisely represents their animals with current photos and has an up to date organized listing of available animals, I've called BIG breeders with animals listed on their site that sold months ago, big turn off. Also I am only buying from breeders that list either shipped prices or a reasonable flat rate shipping price that is easy to find on the site.