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    Would a vet really give an O.K.?

    to sell a collection that was recently found to have paramyxovirus deaths in it?
    ...would they? I thought euthanasia was the best option in cases where paramyxo virus spread through the collection. Even without symptoms surely, these animals will spread it through other people's collections...
    The seller is local and only posting the snakes for sell in local fb groups. Not any reptile based groups in which she had announced that she was having deaths that were found to be a paramyxovirus?

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    Re: Would a vet really give an O.K.?

    A vet really has no say on what a person can sell.

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    Re: Would a vet really give an O.K.?

    That's true. Scary though

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    i would not cull / euthanize.

    but i would keep them all together as a group and isolated from other reptiles for a looong time. the virus should disappear when it cannot find new hosts, and all of the current hosts either have developed a sufficient immune response eliminating the virus, or have already died. so i dont see a reason for euthanizing the survivors. they have a good immune system after all, you just need to make sure that they are virus free, that its not a virus that sticks around.

    paramyxovirus refers to a big class of viruses, ranging over multiple species. two of them are mumps and measles. one affects salmons. i guess you are referring to the one that has been found in australian pythons, thats the only one i found that seems to be reptile-related.

    you are assuming that the pythons will continue to spread it even if they recovered. i think this assumption is likely to be wrong. how long do mumps or measles patients stay infectious? not long at all. is there any case in human history of any human patient ever staying infectious for mumps or measles when the disease has passed and the patient has recovered? i dont think so. i know humans arent pythons and this virus is in the same class, but a different species. still, you seem to be sure about it, i wouldnt be.

    selling the pythons individually and without disclosure is highly unethical. it may be illegal, i dont know. it seems like she is intentionally keeping a fact from potential buyers, and this can cause massive property damage in the form of dead snakes and a devalued collection. im no lawyer but if i would be the victim of something like that, i would get one. maybe it just wont cause damage because the virus is already gone, but a potential buyer should be informed about it.
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    OPMV can remain dormant for an unspecified period of time.

    Anybody who states otherwise didn't Google hard enough.

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    Re: Would a vet really give an O.K.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    OPMV can remain dormant for an unspecified period of time.

    Anybody who states otherwise didn't Google hard enough.
    good to know, but also quite depressing.

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    Re: Would a vet really give an O.K.?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJs Snake House View Post
    The seller is local and only posting the snakes for sell in local fb groups. Not any reptile based groups in which she had announced that she was having deaths that were found to be a paramyxovirus?
    Take screen shots of the forums where the seller stated s/he had snakes die of a PMV and post the pics on the ads. As Skip noted, PMV's can lay dormant for a very long time. This seller is being irresponsible and putting other people's collections at risk.

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