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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Quote Originally Posted by blk02ssmonte View Post
    sorry but I don't see any differences between the black pastel and mine. I just cant see it. not that your wrong I just need a more obvious difference to see it and learn it.
    Another example:

    My Black Pastels:

    http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/deisha.html

    http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/attolay.html

    A couple of my normals:

    http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/capona.html

    http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/jionni.html

    Pastel:

    http://daybreakerexotics.weebly.com/telly.html
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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
    0.0.1 Corn


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    I see normal.
    I used to think subtle morphs looked exactly the same, everyone was once like that. But the more you look at different morphs, especially in person, you'll more easily be able to tell the difference between subtle morphs.
    1.0 firefly ball python
    1.0 100% Pastel het clown ball python
    1.0 Enchi ball python
    1.0 Super Pastel 100% het pied (Richard)
    0.1 Butter 100% het ghost
    0.1 Pastel 100% het pied (Keira)
    0.1 Butter 50% het Ghost Ball Python (Penny)
    0.1 100% het Ghost
    0.1 Normal Ball Python (Irwin)
    0.1 Mojave Ball Python (Eve)
    0.1 Black Bee Ball Python (Charolette)
    0.1 Pintripe (Olivia)
    0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Peaches)
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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    I see differences in the one normal you have, but I think mine looks like your attolay pic the middle one april 17 2013. I have 2 normal and this one looks nothing like either one of them. I guess I am going to have to get to a show and try a side by side comparison because I honestly just cant see it. I do appreciate the pics and help. I am fairly new and just need to learn more.

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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Op, looks like a low quality pastel.

    To the thread jacker, yours is normal.
    If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.

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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Quote Originally Posted by blk02ssmonte View Post
    I see differences in the one normal you have, but I think mine looks like your attolay pic the middle one april 17 2013. I have 2 normal and this one looks nothing like either one of them. I guess I am going to have to get to a show and try a side by side comparison because I honestly just cant see it. I do appreciate the pics and help. I am fairly new and just need to learn more.
    Your snake is more golden with more uniform alien heads: see how my black pastel male is overall darker (more darker brown/chocolatey) and how differently shaped his alien heads are and his flaming coming up on the sides? IMO good black pastels will has those "squiggles" in the alien heads: those darker lines/coloration within the alien heads. I can almost guarantee your snake is a normal (I would bet my entire collection on it lol): there is not black pastel or regular pastel there, and he probably looks so different because normals are so variable it's amazing (some are gold, some brown, some with tons of flames, some with leopard like patterns, some super reduced, etc).
    Last edited by Daybreaker; 04-02-2014 at 12:16 AM.
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    4.15 Ball Pythons
    1.1 Angolan Pythons
    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
    0.1 Pokigron Suriname BCC__________0.1 Goldenchild Retic
    0.0.1 Corn


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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Quote Originally Posted by kl92 View Post
    Hey guys....wondering what morph he is, if any?
    Pastel.

    Quote Originally Posted by blk02ssmonte View Post
    Here is mine. I was told this is a pastel. It looks more like a black pastel to me. can anyone explain the difference?


    Normal.

    Here's a fine example of a black pastel from VPI


    Another from SPK329

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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Sorry for jacking Little but I was trying to understand and it fit in with my questions as well. Like I said I am fairly new to all this and trying to as much as possible. Day...Thanks for everything I will try to get a side by side in person visual.

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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    [QUOTE=satomi325;2236570]Pastel.



    Normal.

    Here's a fine example of a black pastel from VPI


    Another from SPK329
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    dam im starting to fall in love with blacks ...
    is that urs nikki
    1.1 het pied ,1.1 pastel,1. butter, .1 spider , .1 fire ph ghost , .1 pastave


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    Re: Any guess is welcome....

    Here is my black pastel that I hatched out:



    See how she's more BLACK than brown? Black pastels don't tend to have much brown on their base pattern. A normal (like yours) is mostly brown. The actual pattern is different too. A black pastel tends to have key holes where your normal usually has what we call alien heads because they have two holes in each piece of pattern. Another cool difference is that black pastels tend to have some pieces of their pattern that are connected. Look at my girl's tail and on the side of her neck. See how they are connected? Your normal will usually have a clear break between each piece of pattern.

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