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Lightning Pied?
On genetic wizard, the ingredients are a pied x axanthic and it says those two produce a het pied het axanthic… so all normals? then what do those normals give to create the "lightning pied"?
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It's a double recessive.
You breed the pied to the axanthic to get a bunch of double hets. You take the double hets and breed them to each other (or another double het you have) and hope you hit both recessives on the offspring.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wi...male=30:1,83:1
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Genetics 101............... 1% on paper and 99% luck LoL
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Re: Lightning Pied?
Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Genetics 101............... 1% on paper and 99% luck LoL
Thats the truth ! LoL
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thats the thing about recessives..... they are recessives.
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I am starting on a triple recessive so i gave a long road
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Re: Lightning Pied?
Or to improve your odds breed the 100% double hets to a visual of either morph giving you (in theory, which I hear is a great place to live) 50% visual morphs. These would be a mix of either pied or axanthic(depending on which visual you bred the hets to) and lightning pieds. The single gene morphs would then also have a chance of being recessive for the other gene and the "normals" would be 100% het for the visual gene and 50% het for the other.
You still have to treat the critters well and, burn a ton of offerings on the altar of the odds gods. But, it should improve your chances.
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Getting two double gene animals, each with a dom/co-dom gene and a recessive, will yield you a "prettier" off the bat, if you are lucky enough. But if you breed a standard Pied to a standard Axanthic, yes, what hatches out will look like an awful lot of normals. However, each one of them will be 100% DH pied and ax.
To make the visual, you breed two 100%DHs together. And then, as mentioned above, give many sacrifices to the odds gods to give you a baby that hits both genes.
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Re: Lightning Pied?
Originally Posted by Raven01
Or to improve your odds breed the 100% double hets to a visual of either morph giving you (in theory, which I hear is a great place to live) 50% visual morphs. These would be a mix of either pied or axanthic(depending on which visual you bred the hets to) and lightning pieds. The single gene morphs would then also have a chance of being recessive for the other gene and the "normals" would be 100% het for the visual gene and 50% het for the other.
You still have to treat the critters well and, burn a ton of offerings on the altar of the odds gods. But, it should improve your chances.
I'm actually not going this route with mine specifically to avoid 50% hets, I feel like it just adds a third generation into the process of trying to hit the visual double. With DH x DH at least everything else is 66% het and you at least have a (small) chance of hitting the visual double.
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Re: Lightning Pied?
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