fluid coming out of mouth?????!

[crzyzzang]

I've had Horby , my male bp for a while now and just today I found some sort of clear sticky liquid dripping from its mouth. It seemed like saliva but do snakes salivate??? Horby's terrarium is a 20 gallon and its kept at 85-90. THe humidity level is about 55-70, and everything seems right. Could it possibly be a respiratory infection or something? If it is, how do you treat a respiratory infection?I just wanna make sure it's not something too serious.


-Joe

[gen]

Oh my gosh, the same thing happened to me tonight!! I had Norbert out and noticed a clear fluid coming from his mouth. At first it came out the side of his mouth, and then it came out the front. And then it stopped. I'm very worried, does he have an RI? I haven't noticed any sounds coming from him. I'm glad I had him out or I might not have noticed.

[hhw]

Well, one of the BP's I got recently has a respiratory infection (thankfully, not the pastel ). I first noticed something was wrong when the fork in her tongue was stuck together. I phoned a breeder friend of mine, and he told me that generally when this happens it's because of a respiratory infection. He told me to check inside her mouth, which I did, and I didn't notice any bubbles or mucus. Just a little bit of substrate. I rinsed the substrate out of her mouth, as he advised, and then right after I put her back in the cage, I noticed a bit of bubbling.

Anyway, his recommendation was to raise temps just a little bit, leave her completely alone for a few days, and then try feeding her a live prey item. Apparently, frozen/thawed rodents have less vitamin C in them than live ones. I googled just to make sure he wasn't talking crazy, and sure enough, I saw a few documents recommending that frozen/thawed prey items be injected with vitamin C to make up for what's lost during the freezing/thawing process. You could do that instead of feed live I guess. This female BP of mine has good weight and muscle tone to her, and I think she will recover on her own in a few days, being an otherwise pretty healthy specimen. If she's not better in a week, I'll definitely be booking a vet appointment.

Anyway, just though I'd share what I could, as I've never had a snake develop an RI on me before. Hope what I've said helps.

[gen]

I just took a look in Norbert's mouth and didn't see any mucus or anything. I don't know, I hope he's okay! His cool side temperature has been a bit on the low side lately, but not incredibly low. Around 78 during the day and around 76 at night. A bit lower than I would normally want, but I didn't think it would cause an RI. :?

[firedragon]

I'd make that live prey P/K, since it's only the freezing process that's to blame for the loss of vitamin C. The same thing happens to vegetables and berries you put in the freezer. Hope your snakes will be fine! If it's RI I suppose it's a very early stage and they might be able to fight it off if taken care of properly.

[led4urhead]

First off ... Welcome to the site crzyzzang. Glad to have ya around

Now ... on to the fluid. It could be a number of things. How long have you had him and did you get him as a baby or as an adult? How long has he been doing that? Have you seen any open mouth breathing or does he "pop" or whistle when he breathes? Those are definitely classic signs of RI. Has he been exposed to any low temps or low humidity for any period of time?

I just took a look in Norbert's mouth and didn't see any mucus or anything. I don't know, I hope he's okay! His cool side temperature has been a bit on the low side lately, but not incredibly low. Around 78 during the day and around 76 at night. A bit lower than I would normally want, but I didn't think it would cause an RI. :?

gen : Those temps are good. Has he been doing any of the things i described above?

In either case ... if the fluid continues i would think a vet trip might be in order. Its always best to play it safe when it comes to RI's.

[Marla]

Time to bump up the temps a few degrees and make a vet appointment stat. Those of you who were around will remember that my at-the-time roommate lost her poss het pied to a stubborn RI a few months ago, despite 3 visits to the vet and proper husbandry and medicating. An RI or potential RI is nothing to screw around with.

[gen]

Have you seen any open mouth breathing or does he "pop" or whistle when he breathes? Those are definitely classic signs of RI. Has he been exposed to any low temps or low humidity for any period of time?

No on all of those things. Just the fluid coming out of the mouth last night. I'm going to call my vet tomorrow just to be sure, I'm not messin around.

[led4urhead]

Good idea gen, RI is definitely not something to mess with. Let us know what happens guys.

[iceman25]

Maybe he just took a drink of water :?: BP lovers can be overly paranoid sometimes. Trust me, I am one of them :wink: