Color id help please

[Crazymonkee]

Ok guys hoping you can help me as this is my first colored litter... out of my Moo and a white male...
First is Moo


Next are some babes!




I appreciate any input and thanks for looking!

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[Rhasputin]

Looks like agouti, pink eyed white (likely albino), and black.

[Crazymonkee]

Thanks I wasn't sure on the agouti, the solid color are selfs... am I correct there? I'm just getting into the colored mice.
And how the heck did I get solids and those colors out of that breeding?!?!
I was prepared for some like Moo and didn't get any lol

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[Rhasputin]

Agouti is the base colour of all mice. The 'wild' colour.
Your albino mouse is probably agouti, carrying black, and not carrying piebald. Agouti is a dominant gene, so one copy of it is enough to make the mouse agouti, whereas you need 2 copies of the recessive gene black, to make a mouse look black. Albino (p/p) covers up all other genes. The other genes are still there, but albino is like painting the whole mouse white over the other colours. This mouse must have one copy of Agouti, and one copy of black, because it produces both black and agouti babies. The mother is obviously (a/a) two copies of black, because she -is- black.

So here are what I think the genotypes of your parent mice are.

Albino male:
A/a (one copy of 'A' agouti, and one copy of 'a' black)
p/p (albino)
S/S (no copies of s, no spotting, big S represents nothing, in this case)

Moo:
a/a (black)
P/p (one copy of albino, so she is not albino, but produces albino babies with your male since he has albino genes too)
s/s (s is piebald spotting, it is recessive, so you need 2 copies to have spots)

All of your babies should be S/s because they have one s from their mom, and their father doesn't have any, so that is represented by a big S. So if you breed any babies together, or back to Moo, you should get piebald babies. As far as colours, unless the mice have hidden recessives, there will be no colours other than black, albino, and agouti.

Solid colour is self, agouti is listed as AOC (any other colour) because each hair instead of being one colour, is striped black and brown, instead of being just black or just brown. Solid brown, is chocolate, by the way.

[Crazymonkee]

Agouti is the base colour of all mice. The 'wild' colour.
Your albino mouse is probably agouti, carrying black, and not carrying piebald. Agouti is a dominant gene, so one copy of it is enough to make the mouse agouti, whereas you need 2 copies of the recessive gene black, to make a mouse look black. Albino (p/p) covers up all other genes. The other genes are still there, but albino is like painting the whole mouse white over the other colours. This mouse must have one copy of Agouti, and one copy of black, because it produces both black and agouti babies. The mother is obviously (a/a) two copies of black, because she -is- black.

So here are what I think the genotypes of your parent mice are.

Albino male:
A/a (one copy of 'A' agouti, and one copy of 'a' black)
p/p (albino)
S/S (no copies of s, no spotting, big S represents nothing, in this case)

Moo:
a/a (black)
P/p (one copy of albino, so she is not albino, but produces albino babies with your male since he has albino genes too)
s/s (s is piebald spotting, it is recessive, so you need 2 copies to have spots)

All of your babies should be S/s because they have one s from their mom, and their father doesn't have any, so that is represented by a big S. So if you breed any babies together, or back to Moo, you should get piebald babies. As far as colours, unless the mice have hidden recessives, there will be no colours other than black, albino, and agouti.

Solid colour is self, agouti is listed as AOC (any other colour) because each hair instead of being one colour, is striped black and brown, instead of being just black or just brown. Solid brown, is chocolate, by the way.

Awesome thank you so much!! I'm looking for a good site that has good genetic info.
I appreciate your informative response

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[Rhasputin]

The fun mouse has a pretty comprehensive list of mouse genetics. But DO NOT visit their forum. They are absolutely ruthless animal nazis and even the best mouse and rat breeders are permanently banned just for simply disagreeing with the owner at all.

Here's there list of genes though, it's pretty well done and the most handy one I know of: http://thefunmouse.com/varieties/list.cfm

[Crazymonkee]

Thanks so much!

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