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    Just a showing for those that think they are smarter....................

    Glad I'm not the only one confused. I don't know how staying in a place that was too hot would be avoiding stress especially with ball pythons that are easily stressed out by many different things. But I don't know it's still not making sense to me. Ball pythons are so sensitive to things and I don't understand how one would just sit on something so hot and not realize it at all. I've seen burn pics on google a lot worse that this one where the skin was literally melted off and what's left is singed. I believe with those cases the animal had no where to go. It's a very sad situation.


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    It will choose security over comfort...so if somewhere is too hot but it feels most secure there... that is where it will stay

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    Just a showing for those that think they are smarter....................

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    It will choose security over comfort...so if somewhere is too hot but it feels most secure there... that is where it will stay

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    This is the answer I've read the most. That they are more comfortable or secure in that area. I guess I just can't understand how burning to death is comfortable. Like staying in your burning house because your home is comfy. And I've been through a house fire and there's no way I'd stay no matter how comfy. But I guess it's because I'm not a snake so I will never understand what goes on or what logic they have in they're little snakey brains.


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    No not comfortable... secure... two different things in this instance. Meaning maybe he fits more snugly in the hide, or there is a lack of a hide ..

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    society really should get its act together and teach more science and physics at schools.

    snake burns are based on two things:

    - not doing all the required research or being misinformed by the pet store or someone else

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    - a lack of understanding of science, no concept of what 50 watt or 100 watt really means and what it can do, no real understanding of temperature.

    those screwups just dont happen to people with some understanding of electronics and thermodynamics. At a pet store i frequently visit seems to have found a solution. they sell unregulated hot spots in the form of heat mats / heat tape that are limited to 5 watt, 7 watt, or 10 watt. with such a low maximum output, with the right setup, you really get a hot spot that is just a few degrees above the surrounding ambient temperature. and they sell the stuff with higher energy output together with thermostats. I think that makes a lot of sense.
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    Re: Just a showing for those that think they are smarter....................

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    society really should get its act together and teach more science and physics at schools.
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    I've got a friend who used to have a ball python with a severe burn from a hot rock, it took a LONG time for it to recover from those burns, even years later if the snake coiled up a particular way you could see the distinctive shape of the sizzle stone brand of hot rock that she had been laying on. It was branded into her belly. The previous owner just thought the snake really loved her hot rock because she was always laying on top of it.
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    Did we ever find the answer to why they'll burn & not love due to thermoregulation?

    I remember in high school AP biology we learned about the ability of cold blooded animals to thermoregulate.

    The example was a tree frog. If it was put into a tub of hot water it would jump out immediately, BUT if it was put into a tub of water at a comfortable temperature it would stay. If the temperature was slowly & gradually raised even exceeding the initial too hot temperature, the tree frog wouldn't be able to sense the temperature change in the water. Is this the same concept?

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    Poor girl. Even before I registered to this site just with my google "research" I found many articles/caresheets talking about thermostats. Then I dug through snake forums and found that a lot of people used the hydrostat thermostats. I bought several of those and used those up until the point I started adding more snakes. Herpstat all the way from now on. I'd be a worried mess if I didn't have a thermostat. Even with the RHP I have, I tested it and they can get pretty darn hot. Even if a snake can't lay on it, it hurt me to touch it briefly.

    Thank you rescuing that girl. That's a horrible scar. Man and two years later it looks like that. If burn pictures don't make the ignorant run for thermostats, I don't know what will.
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