Split from Scaleless BP - Feeding Live Debate

[DooLittle]

B.O.S is a clueless newb. I'd take what he says with a grain of salt...

This ^^^^^ And here we go again with another of his threads. This kid is clueless, and obviously starved for attention. I think I might finally actually use the ignore button, because I honestly can't read anymore of this stupid nonsense that comes from him.

But what is sad, is like what kat said. Some clueless new person, who wants to learn things might happen upon his babble. For those people-

My balls all eat live and they are just fine. Live is perfectly fine when done responsibly. Like anything, done responsibly. Just like you dont drive down the road drunk, you dont leave a rat alone with a snake and walk away for hours. F/T carries its own set of risks, and many balls will not take them.

But I guess you're right, the balls in Africa have no clue what they are doing, someone should kill their rats for them.

[sho220]

Didn't have the materials? The edge of any table works fine. Equate it to a giant as tall as a sky scraper picking you up and banging you on the edge of a skyscraper. You're gonna die quick, like instantly.

Why don people think you need a Co2 chamber, or pithing kit to kill a rodent humanely? Because it seems more barbaric slamming them into the edge of a table? Or hitting them in the head with a hard screwdriver handle? It's not any les humane trust me.


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B.O.S can disregard all that and just annoy them to death...although I'm not sure that's any more humane...

[Archimedes]

That Ignore button is becoming handier and handier as the months wear on, I'm tellin' ya.

[Inarikins]

Didn't have the materials? The edge of any table works fine. Equate it to a giant as tall as a sky scraper picking you up and banging you on the edge of a skyscraper. You're gonna die quick, like instantly.

Why don people think you need a Co2 chamber, or pithing kit to kill a rodent humanely? Because it seems more barbaric slamming them into the edge of a table? Or hitting them in the head with a hard screwdriver handle? It's not any les humane trust me.

WOW I don't even know what to say about this. Fact is, banging a rat into a table or wall just as frequently ticks them off or breaks their back and leaves them alive and in agony as it does kill them. Cervical dislocation or CO2 asphyxiation are both humane methods of euthanizing rats. You, as a human being who has the ability to rationalize about what you're doing to another living being that is at your mercy, have the obligation to make sure you're humanely killing your feeder animals, instead of subjecting them to unnecessary pain.

[Rawbbeh]

Feeding live is a stupid idea for any snakes

Pretty sure every time my snake eats their food it is dead. Doesn't mean at some point it was alive a minute or so before they swallowed it.

What a terribly biased and uneducated statement. As others have said, some snakes need to be given live prey. Seems like wherever there's controversy around here these days, the OP is usually stirring the pot.

[rabernet]

Yes! Finally you get it...

That was totally uncalled for. You are showing your ignorance in spades. That on top of being a know it all child.

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[kat_black181]

That was totally uncalled for. You are showing your ignorance in spades. That on top of being a know it all child.

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I honestly believe this is the ONLY attention he knows how to get.

It's sad.

[Expensive hobby]

WOW I don't even know what to say about this. Fact is, banging a rat into a table or wall just as frequently ticks them off or breaks their back and leaves them alive and in agony as it does kill them. Cervical dislocation or CO2 asphyxiation are both humane methods of euthanizing rats. You, as a human being who has the ability to rationalize about what you're doing to another living being that is at your mercy, have the obligation to make sure you're humanely killing your feeder animals, instead of subjecting them to unnecessary pain.

When I euthanize them, and they go limp instantly, and never move again, shows me that I did it right. Quick and painless. I'm not a big fan of p/k or killing rats if I don't have to, and only do it for one of my snakes that has a nasty habit of biting in the wrong spot and getting bit.

I have 4 pet rats that we frequently handle and play with, and care for just like any pet. But when the time come to kill a feeder, it doesn't get any quicker than instant. I make sure I do it hard enough to not have to take a second crack at it.

Like I said it seems barbaric, but that's because it is. It's brutal. But it gets the job done quickly. I don't necessarily like doing it, but it's a necessary evil sometimes.

So in reply to your post: there is no unnecessary pain, because there is no pain at all.


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[Archimedes]

I guess more people than I realized don't practice responsibility in feeding their pets. Who knew.

This thread is making me really sad.

[Inarikins]

There's no pain at all with CO2 asphyxiation. You start them off slow, they pass out without being scared, then they're dead. You think being stuffed in a dark bag and being swung around and then being slammed into a wall is any less painless?

Fact remains that CO2 is approved by vet associations for being one of the only ways (cervical dislocation being another) to humanely euthanize a rat in the home.

This really isn't a hard concept to grasp, that CO2 is humane, and being slammed into the edge of a table is not.