Sub-Saharan ball python help!

[4theSNAKElady]

From what Ive heard from a friend of ours who chats with Ian at Outback reptiles, Subsharans are a locality normal, in which a small group of animals if significantly larger than most others. basically just huge normal that produce large clutches and/or large hatchlings. Don't know if its genetically larger size tho...

[kitedemon]

She is shedding now so once she is done I'll post a pic she is about as big around as a pop can maybe a bit bigger.

[sbit]

not to bore you all with more pics, but here is the first time she bred. I paired her with a 750g lesser and she pretty much man handled him and forced him to lock lol

Nice! Poor little guy looks a little overwhelmed!

[Kam]

Sorry to bump this thread...I was wondering if any one had any current pics?

[OctagonGecko729]

Current pics of what? You can check out some pics of our Subsaharan girl by clicking our facebook link in my signature. She is still re-couping her weight because she would only eat ASFs and I did not have a good supply. I am guessing she should be around 4200g but currently she is 2900g and she laid 11 eggs in Feb 2013.

[bcr229]

She is still re-couping her weight because she would only eat ASFs and I did not have a good supply.

It's a bit far to drive from Manassas, but Naked Acres in Martinsburg, WV has ASF if you can't find any closer. I have one BP stuck on live ASF.

[OctagonGecko729]

It's a bit far to drive from Manassas, but Naked Acres in Martinsburg, WV has ASF if you can't find any closer. I have one BP stuck on live ASF.

Yeah Paul is a good dude. We are actually located in Nanjemoy Maryland now so its like a 2:30 hour drive one way to Pauls place. We were making that trip for several months every other week just for her. Then we got a new apartment down here and now ive got my own colony. So shes gaining weight back now but her pre-lay weight was 3600g. My holdbacks from the original trio of ASFs are now preggo so hopefully soon 50% of my BPs will have ASFs on a regular. I cant wait to really start putting weight on my girl, she looks so much better now then she did.

[bcr229]

LOL figures you'd know Paul, I think everyone does!

[Bluebonnet Herp]

Well, since this thread was resurrected from the dead, I'm going to point this out real quick.
Sub-Saharan balls, correctly known as Volta locality ball pythons, are a locality-type ball python (not a morph) that are simply known for growing bigger and laying more eggs because of it. They're basically like the dwarf retics or dwarf boas, in which they are animals from a population in a certain area that simply effects what size the animal gets, only unlike dwarf retics, Volta balls are actually bigger. These kinds of traits are typically polygenic, and offspring from crosses will usually meet halfway between the two. (Think 50% dwarf retics, except these would be 50% Volta balls.)

Who knows, maybe the typical balls we originally got and breed today are actually the dwarf local and the Voltas are the "normal" sized ones. lol

[OctagonGecko729]

Yep Pythonminion is correct, the genes for larger snakes are polygenetic. There has been rumours about it being monogenetic but I haven't seen any real solid proof on that. Larger BPs tend to not be as marketable as smaller retics though from my experience, or as useful due to the morph "wars" that go on with BPs.