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Mojo will give you a more definitive answer if you do not hit a straight Enchi or another Stinger, since Mochis are very distinct.
When trying to prove out ANY gene, it need to be done in a manner that will make it the most recognizable, at least for the first pairing. Get the sousing out of genetics out of the way.
You need to remind her that a Stinger het Pied (if it proves Stinger) is IMO possibly the most powerful het Pied you can have. The effects of the two genes on Pied are polar opposites.
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Here is an update on her weight.
On 3/28/13 she was 450g
On 8/27/13 she is 982g
Gaining about 100g a month
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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looks like my male stinger, hes got the same reduced pattern and (devil horns on the face) looks good
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I would say definitely not just a spider. If I'm wrong then that's the oddest looking spider I've seen.
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1.0 - Naja siamensis - Zeus (Black & White Spitting Cobra)
1.0 - Naja n. woodi - Hades (Black Spitting Cobra)
0.1 - Naja nigricollis - Athena (Black-necked Spitting Cobra)
coming at some point in the future
Naja annulata (Ringed Water Cobra)
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Re: Spider or stinger bee?
 Originally Posted by jporter617
looks like my male stinger, hes got the same reduced pattern and (devil horns on the face) looks good
I am hopeful still! I've seen so many stingers that look like her, but also quite a few who don't
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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Re: Spider or stinger bee?
Originally Posted by Neal
I would say definitely not just a spider. If I'm wrong then that's the oddest looking spider I've seen.
I really hope there is a second gene in there, and when she is finally able to be bred I will post constant updates. If anything I bet she'll make some crazy looking spiders and mojave spiders (will be bred to my mojave)
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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breed her to the enchi, mojo your more likely to get mojave spiders and its hard to base it from that, if theres enchi in it, a super enchi will pop out an theres no denying that one. they look way better then normal enchis. Goodluck with her!
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Re: Spider or stinger bee?
Originally Posted by jporter617
breed her to the enchi, mojo your more likely to get mojave spiders and its hard to base it from that, if theres enchi in it, a super enchi will pop out an theres no denying that one. they look way better then normal enchis. Goodluck with her!
This year will be my first year breeding and I feel like putting an enchi in there wouldn't be as clear to me as my mojo. And if I don't get any supers then I didn't really prove anything. But if I get an enchi out of spider x mojo then i KNOW. A super enchi would be amazing though.
And if she was to reproduce her reduced pattern I would have a hard time discerning whether or not I had stingers or reduced spiders
Last edited by SnowShredder; 09-18-2013 at 01:17 PM.
Females: 0.1 fire; 0.1 sugar; 0.1 GHI; 0.1 pinstripe het desert ghost; 0.1 mojave spider; 0.2 mojave; 0.1 black pewter blast; 0.1 leopard pied; 0.1 champagne; 0.1 pied; 0.1 super pastel lesser; 0.1 pewter; 0.1 spider het pied, 0.1 bumblebee; 0.1 lesser; 0.1 spider; 0.1 normal; 0.3 het pied
Males: 1.0 het desert ghost; 1.0 pastel pied; 1.0 leopard; 1.0 black pastel; 1.0 enchi; 1.0 mojave; 1.0 cinnamon; 1.0 pied; 1.0 vanilla
Other species: 1.0.3 pacman frogs (sunkissed, super apricot, super blue, super lime green); 0.2 crested gecko; 1.0 hypo hog island boa; 0.1 normal boa; 1.0 rottweiler; 1.0 chihuahua
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So I literally held a stinger bee in my hands yesterday to pretty much looked just like the OP's picture. So I am going with that.
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Re: Spider or stinger bee?
Originally Posted by SnowShredder
This year will be my first year breeding and I feel like putting an enchi in there wouldn't be as clear to me as my mojo. And if I don't get any supers then I didn't really prove anything. But if I get an enchi out of spider x mojo then i KNOW. A super enchi would be amazing though.
And if she was to reproduce her reduced pattern I would have a hard time discerning whether or not I had stingers or reduced spiders
Yes, you're exactly right, OP. And that is one pretty girl you've got yourself there!
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Oh wow, just noticed you're in Marysville! I used to work at the outlets there. I'm just down in the South Everett/Lynnwood Area. 
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