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    Western diamondback pics.

    I took 30 days leave from the navy in 2009 and spent 3 days camping out at lake Sonoma with some friends. We where packing up the morning of the last day and a western diamondback rattlesnake crossed the road into our camp site :/ anyone who has been to lake Sonoma knows that they kill a lot of the rattlers since the campsites are so close together and the park stays so busy. I relocated this little guy in hopes that some campers or children wouldn't beat him with stones and rocks. :/ depressing it has to be that way. I have some photos of the snake and i thought you all might enjoy them.







    And mission success.

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    Re: Western diamondback pics.

    It's awesome that you took the time to move that animal to hopefully protect it from being killed by campers. I would like to point out though that the snake in your hands is not crotalus atrox. It's crotalus viridis. I believe in fact it's crotalus viridis oreganus. Might not be a bad idea to at least know what species your dealing with if your going to put your hands on it.
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    Right snake or not good job moving him to somewhere he won't get his head bashed in! I have camped in a while but I still remember campers just freaking out over the smallest garter.

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    Western diamondback pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by jason_ladouceur View Post
    It's awesome that you took the time to move that animal to hopefully protect it from being killed by campers. I would like to point out though that the snake in your hands is not crotalus atrox. It's crotalus viridis. I believe in fact it's crotalus viridis oreganus. Might not be a bad idea to at least know what species your dealing with if your going to put your hands on it.
    I agree. Your absolutely right. My apologies for not doing more research before making the post. I've never been into venomous snakes so I'm not at all educated in the subject. I do however appreciate all reptiles and didn't want to see this guy/girl get hurt. Sorry for contributing to the misinformation out there. I was just excited to share some old pics that I just recently found. I will do some research and try and rename the post. If I can't do that I'll try to have it deleted. Thanks again.

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    Re: Western diamondback pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herpenthusiast3 View Post
    I agree. Your absolutely right. My apologies for not doing more research before making the post. I've never been into venomous snakes so I'm not at all educated in the subject. I do however appreciate all reptiles and didn't want to see this guy/girl get hurt. Sorry for contributing to the misinformation out there. I was just excited to share some old pics that I just recently found. I will do some research and try and rename the post. If I can't do that I'll try to have it deleted. Thanks again.
    You did a great thing. Saving a animal from possible harm. You obviously knew the animal was venomous so who cares about the Latin name or if you didn't title your post correctly. Some people like to nit pick and try to show off their knowledge. If you said it was a garter snake, that's different, lol. Don't waste your time doing research because somebody pointed out you misidentified the species. You saved a reptile from a most likely death. I don't recommend ever handling venomous snakes but if you felt comfortable doing it more power to you.

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    Re: Western diamondback pics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herpenthusiast3 View Post
    I agree. Your absolutely right. My apologies for not doing more research before making the post. I've never been into venomous snakes so I'm not at all educated in the subject. I do however appreciate all reptiles and didn't want to see this guy/girl get hurt. Sorry for contributing to the misinformation out there. I was just excited to share some old pics that I just recently found. I will do some research and try and rename the post. If I can't do that I'll try to have it deleted. Thanks again.
    There is no need to apologize. You did a great thing. I simply wanted to point out that the animal you were handling was not the animal you thought it was and provide you and any people reading this post acurate information.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seanjackmc View Post
    You did a great thing. Saving a animal from possible harm. You obviously knew the animal was venomous so who cares about the Latin name or if you didn't title your post correctly. Some people like to nit pick and try to show off their knowledge. If you said it was a garter snake, that's different, lol. Don't waste your time doing research because somebody pointed out you misidentified the species. You saved a reptile from a most likely death. I don't recommend ever handling venomous snakes but if you felt comfortable doing it more power to you.
    You think don't research and acquiring knowledge is a waste of time? Odd, what exactly about that do you find not worth time or effort?
    I'm sorry but pointing out a miss labeled animal,especially a venomous one is not nit picking IMO, it's simply sharing of information. And as far as I understand it is kind of the point of this forum board. And you asked who cares about the right Latin name for the animal in question, I do, most serious Herp enthusiasts do; researchers, scientist; oh and I'd bet the attending physician in the event of a bite would be very interested in knowing the correct name of the animal that caused the bite. Although the natural habitat's of atrox and viridis don't overlap, the antivenom used is the same, and the bite treatment protocol would be basically the same. It would probably be best if they didn't have to waste anytime trying to figure how you got bit by an animal that doesn't live anywhere close to where you were bit.
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    Re: Western diamondback pics.

    Sorry for the double post.
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    Thanks for saving the snake!!

    I am going to agree with Jason, it might not be of relevance to some people, but learning about what is in your area or the area you were at is pretty cool.. sure the guy knew it was venomous, most of us here knew that, but knowing the species could help if you were bit or maybe you just like learning about the types of rattlers or whatever.. dont knock someone for wanting to correct a mislabeled animal.. thats a good thing! You might think its showing off but its just pointing out an error so other folks dont make an error later on when trying to identify and animal or so they can learn about the said type they confused for something else..

    Personally for me mislabeling animals or species, hell even breeds is a big deal, carries over into my dog life and believe it or not, mislabeling things can cause a lot of issues in ways you dont think about when you do it, not to bring up dogs but, look at the BSL "pit bull types" face, majority of that was causes by the wrong dogs being labeled something they werent by uneducated or misinformed people, when it was a different breed or mutt.. /tangent lol

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    Western diamondback pics.

    I went to the main site to edit the post but I couldn't figure it out since I always use my tapatalk on my phone to surf the forum. You can Edit topic titles can't you? If so can someone help me out.

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    Western diamondback pics.

    "Like a good neighbor, the forum administrators there!" :/ it was worth a try. It's been more then Ten minutes so they aren't letting me edit it. It says a forum admin has to do it. Ugh :/

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