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Wild caught ball python blisters
Hey guys, had a question for you all, I got several ball pythons from my wholesaler and one of them has small blisters throughout her body. Anyone know what might be the cause of this, thank you.
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
Originally Posted by NathanV
Hey guys, had a question for you all, I got several ball pythons from my wholesaler and one of them has small blisters throughout her body. Anyone know what might be the cause of this, thank you.
Using the wrong wholesaler.
Time to find a good herp vet.
Derek
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
are you sure they are wild caught?
im just asking, because the cheapest BPs hatchlings and subadults you can buy in quantity and quality are farm-bred in big breeding farms in africa.
wild-caught would be much more expensive and rare. it takes much more time and effort.
also, you need to know because i would NEVER buy a wild caught.... but a nice looking farm bred normal or pastel, i have no problem with that. I just dont want to put strain on a wild animal population. if animals bred in captivity exist, i think its an unnecessary assault on nature to buy wild caught.
so, wild-caught, really, seriously?
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
Originally Posted by Kurtilein
are you sure they are wild caught?
im just asking, because the cheapest BPs hatchlings and subadults you can buy in quantity and quality are farm-bred in big breeding farms in africa.
wild-caught would be much more expensive and rare. it takes much more time and effort.
also, you need to know because i would NEVER buy a wild caught.... but a nice looking farm bred normal or pastel, i have no problem with that. I just dont want to put strain on a wild animal population. if animals bred in captivity exist, i think its an unnecessary assault on nature to buy wild caught.
so, wild-caught, really, seriously?
I dont agree with this. All new mutations were caught in the wild at one time or another... thats why we have so many mutations in ball pythons. Lol
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How long did you have them before the blisters appeared? Were they there when you bought them? Did you pick the animals out yourself?
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
Originally Posted by RedDragonMorphs
I dont agree with this. All new mutations were caught in the wild at one time or another... thats why we have so many mutations in ball pythons. Lol
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many mutations and morphs originate from african breeding farms. of course the african breeding farms are quite closely connected to the wild gene pool. but when we look at the first example of a new morph that makes it out of africa, it is much more likely to be a breeding farm hatchling than a wild caught.
if you order 2000 BP hatchlings from africa (many breeders do this several times per year), you will get 100% farm bred animals. some of them may have a wild-caught parent or grandparent, some will be captive-bred for generations. anyway the gene-pool is quite massive. many morphs trace to dinkers found in these deliveries.
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
Originally Posted by Kurtilein
many mutations and morphs originate from african breeding farms. of course the african breeding farms are quite closely connected to the wild gene pool. but when we look at the first example of a new morph that makes it out of africa, it is much more likely to be a breeding farm hatchling than a wild caught.
if you order 2000 BP hatchlings from africa (many breeders do this several times per year), you will get 100% farm bred animals. some of them may have a wild-caught parent or grandparent, some will be captive-bred for generations. anyway the gene-pool is quite massive. many morphs trace to dinkers found in these deliveries.
How do you know they're all farm produced?
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Wild caught ball python blisters
Originally Posted by Kurtilein
many mutations and morphs originate from african breeding farms. of course the african breeding farms are quite closely connected to the wild gene pool. but when we look at the first example of a new morph that makes it out of africa, it is much more likely to be a breeding farm hatchling than a wild caught.
if you order 2000 BP hatchlings from africa (many breeders do this several times per year), you will get 100% farm bred animals. some of them may have a wild-caught parent or grandparent, some will be captive-bred for generations. anyway the gene-pool is quite massive. many morphs trace to dinkers found in these deliveries.
Where do you get all your facts from?
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Re: Wild caught ball python blisters
umm.... damn.
just did more research.... aaaand it turns out im wrong and its still common to catch females at the right time, let them lay their eggs in captivity, and release them back into the wild, sometimes they also collect eggs from the wild. and these get mixed with the ones that are bred in captivity in breeding farms at the distribution center.
but at least straight-out wild caught appears to be really, really rare nowadays.
i guess ive seen too many videos about the distribution centers where they package thousands of BPs and about the large breeding farms where they produce thousands. and i know at least one really big breeder in europe that imports huge amounts of BPs.... but only from breeders in africa. i falsely assumed that the whole thing with catching females and having them lay eggs and releasing them back into the wild would be a thing of the past.
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