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PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)
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FACT: To kill snakes for their skins, hunters often nail them to trees & skin them alive before tossing them in a pile to die.
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Great, now they'll start rounding up and gassing adoptable herps like they do dogs and cats.
I like how they act like it's some new thing. PETA, you could have been dealing with this before, but you decided to whine about things like Pokemon games and spend money on trying to get people to not play them.
PETA is a joke. I would pass it off as butthurt rambling if they didn't waste money they could be using to help animals. If it isn't telling everyone that our farmers cut cows up while they're still alive(they don't) or saying that Pokemon games convince children that 'Pokemon only exist to fight'(they don't exist, and the purpose of the game is to battle), it's being very behind on things.
On another note, I want to know how these poachers get a snake to sit still so they can gently remove the skin. I've actually done a dissection on a snake before...one false move and you could end up ripping or nicking the skin, and that was with proper medical tools and a non-moving subject. No one would buy a ripped or bloody product...
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Re: PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
Originally Posted by EarthlyMaiden
On another note, I want to know how these poachers get a snake to sit still so they can gently remove the skin. I've actually done a dissection on a snake before...one false move and you could end up ripping or nicking the skin, and that was with proper medical tools and a non-moving subject. No one would buy a ripped or bloody product...
Although I don't agree with anything that PETA does or says, the harvest and culling of snakes for their skins is probably just as brutal as they make it out to be, take a look at this video. Comparing people dispatching and skinning animals in the field to a dissection you've done is kind of a foolish mentality because those are two very different situations with two very different goals.
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That's how I skin catfish. I hope they don't find out!
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The video clearly shows them crushing the heads on pythons and then says that "obviously" they're still alive because they still move around. Anyone killing animals knows that bodies still move even after the brain has been destroyed. It's the same argument PETA/HSUS/AR use to say that cows are still alive while being butchered, because a leg is kicking or the body is twitching.
It might not be great for the snakes to get killed for skins, and obviously threatened and protected species should not be harvested... but killing a snake that has a healthy population for skins(and meat) is no different for places like that than killing deer or turkeys is for us.
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No Legs and More
Florida, USA
"Stop being a wimpy monkey,; bare some teeth, steal some food and fling poo with the alphas. "
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I understand what you're saying and really, I personally don't have a problem with controlled hunting or slaughter of animals for human purpose, however, a lot of those snakes in the video were not just death thrashing. There were animals still slithering around with their faces bashed in and that is absolutely a horrible and cruel way to dispatch of any creature and then they were hanged up from hook by their mouths and clearly struggling in pain. They were not dead or rendered unconscious when hit with the hammer. :/
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Re: PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
Originally Posted by MisterKyte
I understand what you're saying and really, I personally don't have a problem with controlled hunting or slaughter of animals for human purpose, however, a lot of those snakes in the video were not just death thrashing. There were animals still slithering around with their faces bashed in and that is absolutely a horrible and cruel way to dispatch of any creature and then they were hanged up from hook by their mouths and clearly struggling in pain. They were not dead or rendered unconscious when hit with the hammer. :/
I don't think you have much experience killing snakes. Even with the head completely cut off they will wiggle and move for a long time after.
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Re: PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
Originally Posted by MisterKyte
Although I don't agree with anything that PETA does or says, the harvest and culling of snakes for their skins is probably just as brutal as they make it out to be, take a look at this video. Comparing people dispatching and skinning animals in the field to a dissection you've done is kind of a foolish mentality because those are two very different situations with two very different goals.
I have no doubt it's a brutal process, I just don't trust PETA.
They made the same 'cut up while still alive' claim about beef cattle in slaughterhouses. (When, if they actually observed a slaughterhouse, they'd find that it is extremely humane.) They made farmers out to be freaks who like to mutilate live animals, and they tend to categorize everyone who isn't a total vegan as some sort of complete monster. I've reached the point where I assume everything they say is either a complete lie, an uninformed statement or extremely exaggerated.
I was also commenting on how it would be difficult to remove skin from a wriggling, moving animal that could just as easily bite you if you need to get the skin off intact.
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PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
It's cool that PETA is putting something out there for snakes. It's just a shame it has taken "the year or the snake" for me to see them care about anything that isn't cute and fuzzy.
Last edited by Rob; 02-10-2013 at 09:55 PM.
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PETA Pretends to Care About Snakes
PETA is a joke of an organization. As much as they say they love and help animals.. It just doesn't show.
As an animal lover, if they actually helped animals, I would gladly support them. Classic do as I say not as I do organization.
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