Sterling ball or Pewter Ball

[ilovevenom]

I just want my yellowbelly back, or i want him to send me another snake to make up for the difference in trade. to make it even. I traded for a (STERLING). Not a possible sterling, not for a pewter. The only fair and right thing to do is....# 1 send me another snake to make up the difference, #2 send me a postal money order to make up the difference in price , Or # 3 send my yellow belly back to me and ill send this POSSIBLE sterling/pewter back to him. I just want whats fair and whats right. What do you guys think ?????

[dr del]

If this was the first set of pictures you posted...

Looking for you guy's opintions....So here he is with and without flash

With flash



With out flash

Then what on earth does the first pic in this post have to do with anything? Yes, it "looks like 2 different snakes", but that's because it isn't the one you've posted!

Looks like 2 different snakes to me......

Since the first pic in the last post is lifted directly from world of ball pythons I believe he is trying to say they are not the same morph.

However the original pictures of what is undoubtedly the same snake plainly shows he has tampered with the picture in some way - either by washing it out with a close flash or in photoshop etc.


dr del

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Yes, that was the price that Mr. Miller placed on it. Granted I didn't "pay" for it with money, the 850 was "paid" through trade value......Granted I should've worded it differently

I paid 850 for this snake

I'm still trying to see where the problem is......The breeder right there in black and white reaffirmed the snake and it's genetics, and guarantees it.......

The inconsistencies are one of the problem.

When someone has doubt and believe they might have been duped they tend to be honest so why say you paid $850 if you TRADED?

Which version is the truth trade or cash?

If cash is the truth this means you really wanted that animal in your projects then if so why turn around and sell it? I assume you won't mind posting the transaction details to clear that fact that is was a trade.

What I am trying to do is getting to the bottom of this because obviously there is an issue with you and Ilovevenom or with both.







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[ilovevenom]

What do you think would be the right thing he should do ?? He told me it was a sterling, I traded for a STERLING. Not a pewter, or POSSIBLE sterling. He knew there were serious doubts long before making the trade deal with me. The en he went ahead and traded it to me anyway as a STERLING. He could of told me about the doubts, the questions about the snakes identity and let me make the decision myself to go ahead with the trade or not. But he didnt. Have you guys seen the yellowbelly female i traded him for this snake ? there is NO Doubt , that yellowbelly is the best looking yellow belly i have EVER laid eyes on. Its not fair, not right, and it needs to be fixed. I have asked him to send me another snake to make up the difference, send me a postal money order to make up the difference, or send the yellowbelly back to me and ill send this snake back to him. What would you guys think ?????

[dr del]

I think I'd have a lot more sympathy with your plight if you hadn't tried to pass it on as a sterling yourself at the same price level without mentioning the short length of time you had it or that there were any possible questions about its genetics.


dr del

[ilovevenom]

that was before i even noticed the questioning about the ball.

[Valley]

Some people just don't know when to admit wrong doing. We all make mistakes, it's in our nature. It's how we react after those mistakes and correct them that define us.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

that was before i even noticed the questioning about the ball.

Still does not justify why after YOU called him out here you answered inquiries about the snake and kept labeling it a a Sterling also

I have the timeline and it does not look good on your part either.

[ilovevenom]

I would like everyones opinion on how to fix this, make it right ??????

[Raven01]

I would like everyones opinion on how to fix this, make it right ??????

Chalk it up to Kharma, since I highly doubt you've managed to get around to "making it right" between yourself and those you've managed to cheat.