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possibly new blood need enclosure help
i was looking into getting a blood python in the future. i want to start by looking for some enclosures and weighing my options, im mainly looking at getting a animal plastics cage or animal plastics rack. which do you guys and gals that own bloods prefer a cage or rack if you prefer a rack what size tubs do you normally use and if you prefer an actual cage which size do you recommend i use as far as the sizing goes for the animal plastics .
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My subadults are in 34qt tubs and will move up until they need an actual cage. I plan on at least 4' cages for my females, and if they need a 6' (monsters) then I'll upgrade them. Most males will be fine in 4' cages or tubs of similar length IMO. I know there's a really nice rack that some breeders use for their adult bloods but I can't recall what it was called/what the tub dimensions are.
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I would go with a 4-6 foot cage, or the AP VE175 rack (which was designed for Bloods I believe)
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I keep all my bloods/short-tails in Animal Plastic racks. I start them off in the shoe box size bins, then move them up to sweater bins, and finally into VE175s, which were designed for bloods. Babies will not thrive in a large cage. They need to feel secure. What size blood python where you thinking of getting?
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Re: possibly new blood need enclosure help
well if i get one it would most likely be a small juvenile, i was asking about cage sizing because on the ball python forum i asked for suggestions on a new snake that i could house in my spare animal plastics t3 for the life of the snake through adult hood, a person there suggested blood pythons and said it would be fine to house him in my t3 but the more i look online and see these wonderful snakes i really dont see it unless it was a small adult male. so on that note do you think it possible to house one in my t3 or do you have any other thoughts or opinions on a different snake i could look at that might be able to live its life out in my t3, i have smaller setups to start them out in so they wont be to stressed. any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.
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Re: possibly new blood need enclosure help
That cage may be a bit small, in my opinion. I know people who do keep bloods successfully in 3 x 2 cages, but I prefer a floor space of 4 x 2 for adults, especially females. An adult male Sumatran Short-Tail aka Black Blood could probably live in a cage that size.
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For an adult you will need either a T8 or 10 cage (4x2 foot print) or a rack fitting VE175 tubs like this one
Those tubs can be found at stores like Target, Walmart etc around christmas time for about $25, they are sold as Christmas Tree Box and their dimensions is 52x20x12
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I keep 2 of mine in T10's and there perfect size for both of them and they work out good,,,, BUT, I have a 1 year old that I keep in a rack as I always will with him, sometimes hees a little grumpy and I dont want to try to mess with him in an "enclosed" enclosure.
Tho these guys are pretty dosile for the most part, I dont wanna be sholder deep in a T10/T8 when a blood is having a bad day. Dont let their "fatty" looks fool ya, there fast strikers. The 2 I have in the T10's will always stay in there but my other 2 and any others to come will be housed in some kind of rack system.
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Re: possibly new blood need enclosure help
[QUOTE=Cold-Blooded Earth;1926629]That cage may be a bit small, in my opinion. I know people who do keep bloods successfully in 3 x 2 cages, but I prefer a floor space of 4 x 2 for adults, especially females. An adult male Sumatran Short-Tail aka Black Blood could probably live in a cage that size.[/QUO
i was looking at a 2012 cb chrome head black blood, if i get one i am thinking of starting him it out in a small rack setup and then moving him to the t3 if he gets bigger and needs a t8 or a t10 i could get one at a later date. if i got a juvenile how long do you think it would be before he out grows the t3? just an average i know there are a lot of factors im just trying to weigh all of the options before i jump in.if it would take six to eight months i might go ahead and pick one up but if its growth rate is faster than that i will wait to get the new cage first and then see whats available at that time.
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Re: possibly new blood need enclosure help
[QUOTE=05kas05;1927635]
Originally Posted by Cold-Blooded Earth
That cage may be a bit small, in my opinion. I know people who do keep bloods successfully in 3 x 2 cages, but I prefer a floor space of 4 x 2 for adults, especially females. An adult male Sumatran Short-Tail aka Black Blood could probably live in a cage that size.[/QUO
i was looking at a 2012 cb chrome head black blood, if i get one i am thinking of starting him it out in a small rack setup and then moving him to the t3 if he gets bigger and needs a t8 or a t10 i could get one at a later date. if i got a juvenile how long do you think it would be before he out grows the t3? just an average i know there are a lot of factors im just trying to weigh all of the options before i jump in.if it would take six to eight months i might go ahead and pick one up but if its growth rate is faster than that i will wait to get the new cage first and then see whats available at that time.
Good plan. I think if you got a 2011 it would be 2 years before you would have to get a new cage. If you got a 2010 it would be a year before you need a t8 or t10.
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