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Re: The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles
Ricky, that is not his web site. He's .ca in Ontario, Canada. The .com you linked to is in Iowa, USA. Different person and business.
Last edited by dr del; 06-19-2013 at 12:49 PM.
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Re: The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
Originally Posted by bcr229
Ricky, that is not his web site. He's .ca in Ontario, Canada. The .com you linked to is in Iowa, USA. Different person and business.
asked a mod to fix it. ty.
Still can't believe it. Who freezes live animals?!?!
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Re: The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
Originally Posted by sharkrocket
I would like to hear more about super black pastels from other breeders. We are planning to go for super black pastels in a year or two, and we have our hearts set on an all black snake. I hope to hear about deformities relating to them from others. I am really sorry to hear about your experience TJ, but hopefully it can help others.
I will be the first to say that since my post, I have seen plenty of healthy, perfect looking super cinnamons and cinnamon x black pastels. Mark Mandic was one the breeders who showed me more than a handful of his own hatchlings and he has not (to my knowledge) produced any misshapen or deformed ones. Although I did not see any issues with temp during incubation, I can not say with certainty that there wasn't a day while I was away from my home that the incubator crept up past 90.F although it is unlikely. I would have to assume something went wrong during incubation. I may attempt another Cinny combo x Cinny female in the future and heavily document the incubation process while keeping temps at 88.F instead of the 89.F to 90.F that is typical of most breeders. That should give me a final answer.
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Re: The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
Originally Posted by Rickys_Reptiles
Still can't believe it. Who freezes live animals?!?!
I agree.
But unfortunately, a lot of people still euthanize reptiles via Freezer. Its an old school method that has been an accepted practice for generations.
Its only through more recent studies and education that people have learned that it is inhumane, slow, and painful. And sadly a lot of keepers are still ignorant of that.
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The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
Agreed it had •ONLY• been what since the mid 80s that that has been known to be a very poor option. 30 years, perhaps it is time to update your Vic20 too...
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Are these caused by environmental factors, or are they from poor genetics?? (or both??)
I know most "birth defects" (usually just runty size) in my mice are caused by genetic factors, and only a handful from poor diet/maternal neglect; I would imagine it is different in herps??
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Re: The Official Birth Defect Documentary *Graphic picture warning*
I believe both, it can be one or the other or both at once.
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Ignore me just subbing this thread so I don't lose it.
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