Ball Python X Green Tree Python Hybrid

[ball-nut]

Wow, imagine trying to get one of those feeding.

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[Riv]

@robNj Touche sir. Youre absolutely right. It wouldnt increase survivability at all as long ad they were kept jn captivity. Im not saying I intend to release them or anything. But if the Gtpxball hybrid did come to exist, and people began breeding more of them, in the event of an apocalypse, that hybrid would have a higher chance of surival based sheery on the level of comfort in both trees and on the ground. Comvined with a passive disposition, I thibk it would last a lot longer than within that scenario. In captivity that doesnt matter of course. They are on to road to being domesticated, Eliminating the need to furrher imprive their survivability.

[rvcasa]

You talk about "improve both species..."
But you haven't mention what improvements are those?

What are you expecting, besides the skin color morphs?


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[loonunit]

It'll be harder to cross python regius with morelia viridis than it is morelia viridis x morelia sp., or python regius x python sp., simply because they're not as closely related, so there will be far fewer genes in common. The result will be a lot more non-viable eggs. And the final hybrid is even more likely to be a mule, i.e. sterile.

But if carpets and balls have been successfully mixed, and womas and balls, you should be able to cross balls and chondros. In theory. Maybe.

[RobNJ]

You talk about "improve both species..."
But you haven't mention what improvements are those?

What are you expecting, besides the skin color morphs?


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Riv outlined this in his post previous to yours...in the case of cataclysmic events that would undoubtedly free all captive bred animals, hybridization may be the key factor in benefiting said species by equipping them with the best behaviors of both worlds, so that they can be more adaptable to living in all environments.

[Riv]

It'll be harder to cross python regius with morelia viridis than it is morelia viridis x morelia sp., or python regius x python sp., simply because they're not as closely related, so there will be far fewer genes in common. The result will be a lot more non-viable eggs. And the final hybrid is even more likely to be a mule, i.e. sterile.

But if carpets and balls have been successfully mixed, and womas and balls, you should be able to cross balls and chondros. In theory. Maybe.

I was thinking about that. They arent as closely related. And as a result the hybriid being sterile is a very real possibility. But there is the link of carpet pythons. Even if one was completely unsuccessful breeding a pure GTP to a pure ball, they may be able to be combined using carpets as a catalyst. Lets say you attempted to breed a Carpandros with a carpall. Now, im no expert, and this is going on my basic understanding of breeding and genetics, but even though you would never really get a what a pure GTP X Ball hybrid would be like, it would allow the two species genetics to mingle, and with selective breeding you could wind up with a snake that would be the closet thing to that hybrid. I dont really see the carpet genetics really adding anything new to the mix except maybe some cool patterns, but It was fun to think about XD

[waterpython78]

Go for it , I would love to see this hybrid.

[TheSnakeGuy]

Snake of my dreams, Albino Burm-ball or Blue-eyed Lucistic Burm-ball. It doesn't get prettier than that

[sissysnakes]

I think it is also important to take in consideration if you do manage to produce the hybrid offspring. If you do not get the disired outcome, what will you do with the offspring? I feel it is important to consider others, and the purity of both the GTP and BP line. If you did decide to sell these to the general public, even if you do specify to the buyer that this is a Crossed/hybrid animal, what is to stop them from selling that animal to the next buyer as a BP or GTP (depending on how it looks).
Just a thought, I am not against hybrids, I just think there is a certain responsibilty when "creating" these animals.

[mainbutter]

GTP hybridization projects are notorious for being difficult to get successful offspring from. Slug clutches, eggs that fail halfway through.. it's tough. Do some reading on GTP egg incubation, incubating GTP eggs is also notoriously more difficult than many other python species.

One thing is for sure, any offspring from a ball x gtp would likely not be mistaken as anything else, and that's what I like in hybrid projects!!

Hybridizing very similar species makes for more confusion than hybridizing drastically different species, and tends to make for the most spectacular successes when they occur.

For examples of distant hybrid successes, please see:

ball x woma
ball x burm
carpet x borneo

For examples of hybrids I consider failures (defined as, once you see the offspring, you think "well, that wasn't worth the effort"):

ball x angolan
blood x borneo
rhino x gaboon (this one even occurs in the wild, but I much prefer the distinct species' looks at the extreme furthest edges of each others' range)

Good luck, don't count on succeeding even on your fourth season attempting this cross. Try it enough and change things up when you encounter failure, and you might get a few eggs to go full term and produce healthy hatchlings.