What Do You Make of These Ball Pythons??? - Morph???

[milo45]

Thank you guys for all your input..... I have already contacted my vets surgery and spoken to them yesterday and they are happy for the little ones to continue and if no issues then fine, if I feel their quality of life is compromised then I will have them put to sleep, as it is only fair on them.
I didnt realise temps could affect the pattern of a snake WOW and only around 1 1/2wks - 2wks from hatching!
You would have trouble adopting Gale sorry, as I am in the UK lol, but dont worry, I will keep the little guys for life, they will have a home as long as they are well and can feed........
I came on here as I feel you guys are more knowledgeable than the UK, who are only Critical!!! I would get better input and advise on here.
I will let you all know how they get on and when they shed etc, I will do some pics and if you would like to see the jaws, I will take a pic for you.......
I always think better to discuss like this rather than to criticize like in the UK. It was very unfortunate the in incubator "spiked" and it was during the evening and night time.
We had another clutch about to hatch at the same time (2days between this and the other clutch), I am pleased to say, they are all 100% and got ourselves some Black Pewter Het Hypos......
Thanks again People.....

[WingedWolfPsion]

It's possible your incubator spiked earlier on in the incubation, when you weren't around, isn't it? (I highly recommend a new incubator or thermostat, so it can't happen again).

Hope they make it for you!

[angllady2]

Rats!

How hard is it to get a snake from the UK here ? Derrik has a couple I want, so maybe if I can be picking up enough at once, it would be worth it.

Gale

[milo45]

Rats!

How hard is it to get a snake from the UK here ? Derrik has a couple I want, so maybe if I can be picking up enough at once, it would be worth it.

Gale

lol.....not hard for us at all hun, we advertise and ship with Boa Republic and can get things back over the pond too

[mainbutter]

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incubation temperature issue definitely seems the likely culprit! Also the pattern on your pastel there certainly lends itself to the spotty nature of the first two animals.

[milo45]

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incubation temperature issue definitely seems the likely culprit! Also the pattern on your pastel there certainly lends itself to the spotty nature of the first two animals.

thank you so much for your help........

[milo45]

An update for you on how the "Crazy Pastels" are going...... They are all feeding and havent lost any, only one will feed on own, however, the others with undershot jaws, we just pop a Fluff (still on them), in their mouth...only just in and they do the rest of the work, we are not forcing them, just literally open the mouth and pop in, then....they stand up in their tubs and devour their little mouse on their own, they have 3-4 one after the other which they willingly take once put in for them...
Here are some pics for you to see .......

[PitOnTheProwl]

Glad to see they are doing good.
Those are still some great looking patterns.

I didnt re-read the whole post but where there any problems during incubation or temp spikes?

[milo45]

[QUOTE=PitOnTheProwl;1951223]Glad to see they are doing good.
Those are still some great looking patterns.

I didnt re-read the whole post but where there any problems during incubation or temp spikes?[/QUOT

Hi thank you
yes we had an issue toward the end of the incubation period and when I went in, in the morning and checked the eggs, the heat was "PHEW" coming out when door opened, checked stat and independent gauge and temp was very high, had to take all eggs ....a few boxes out of incubator and make one with a heat mat in a viv as temporary emergency measure......the tub with these guys in had gotten very hot, hotter than the others....

[PitOnTheProwl]

yes we had an issue toward the end of the incubation period and when I went in, in the morning and checked the eggs, the heat was "PHEW" coming out when door opened, checked stat and independent gauge and temp was very high, had to take all eggs ....a few boxes out of incubator and make one with a heat mat in a viv as temporary emergency measure......the tub with these guys in had gotten very hot, hotter than the others....

That could explain the pattern