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    need help on identifying the rescue that came to me

    I was brought a rescue yesterday, I think its a carpet python bit not sure type or if its a morph or Wat. The snake was found in an apartment closet after tenants moved out. Pic is on profile. Please help

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    Looks like a normal coastal carpet python to me possibly a jungle/coastal integrate

    Checkout this site:

    http://www.acreptiles.com/main/index...=81&Itemid=140
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    Looks to be a nice Coastal, I don't see any jungle in this guy, looks to be a pure, but definitely would not call it a pure down the line for the sake of being muddy, just my two cents ;-)
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    Re: need help on identifying the rescue that came to me

    That's Wat I was thinking. Never had or seen one in person. How much do they usually go for? And do u know how big they get

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    Cost can be as litlle as 75 for an integrade, 125 for an alleged pure, and 175 for a pure with known origins from a reputable breeder (although by the end of the season left overs can go for 100 for a pure one).

    Size is arguable. They have size variation without geographic variation. The largest specimens are usually less than 3 meters, most specimens reach lengths to 6-6.3 meters. In coastals males will typically get larger than females thanks to sexual selection process and male combat in the wild. Lots of caresheets out there will tell you the oposite of this, check out "the complete carpet python" by Nick Mutton and Justin Julander for more information on this.
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    Re: need help on identifying the rescue that came to me

    Quote Originally Posted by 218ReptileRescue View Post
    That's Wat I was thinking. Never had or seen one in person. How much do they usually go for? And do u know how big they get
    From the article Aaron posted:

    "Coastal or Queensland Carpets (M. s. mcdowelli)
    These grow the largest. Although some females have been known to grow to 10 or 11 feet in length (and maybe even more), most adults stay in the range of 7-9 feet."
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    Re: need help on identifying the rescue that came to me

    Quote Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    From the article Aaron posted:

    "Coastal or Queensland Carpets (M. s. mcdowelli)
    These grow the largest. Although some females have been known to grow to 10 or 11 feet in length (and maybe even more), most adults stay in the range of 7-9 feet."
    False - normaly they grow within the same range as Jungles, sometimes slightly larger, but in most cases there is a small difference in captivity. Larger growing coastals come from the southern region of their range (if memory serves). It's just like saying Irian Jaya, M. s. harrisoni, are the smallest growing These actually can grow to 7ft in a nice size female. Note they are not known for engaging in male to male combat, so natural selection has geared toward larger females.

    The largest growing carpet pythons by definition would be M. bredli, which is arguablly a different sub species :-), but the largest growing Morelia would be the Scrub Python. None the less, a 7-9 ft coastal is NOT a common site.
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    Re: need help on identifying the rescue that came to me

    Quote Originally Posted by reptileexperts View Post
    False - normaly they grow within the same range as Jungles, sometimes slightly larger, but in most cases there is a small difference in captivity. Larger growing coastals come from the southern region of their range (if memory serves). It's just like saying Irian Jaya, M. s. harrisoni, are the smallest growing These actually can grow to 7ft in a nice size female. Note they are not known for engaging in male to male combat, so natural selection has geared toward larger females.

    The largest growing carpet pythons by definition would be M. bredli, which is arguablly a different sub species :-), but the largest growing Morelia would be the Scrub Python. None the less, a 7-9 ft coastal is NOT a common site.
    Do you have some links to more coastal carpet info?
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    2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
    1.1 T+ Argentine BCOs______________1.0 Snow Bull
    1.3 Colombian morph BCIs___________0.1 Coastal Carpet
    0.1 Hog Island BCI__________________0.1 Platinum Retic
    0.1 Het Anery BCL __________________0.1 Lavender Albino Citron Retic
    0.2 Central American morph BCIs_____1.0 Blonde/Caramel Retic
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    http://www.inlandreptile.com/index.html - Has some decent info on several species/subspecies of carpets on their website. If you're ever at a Portland or Seattle reptile show, you can pick up a copy of The Complete Carpet Python from the man himself. Website states Coastals can reach up to 14 feet, though it is as suggest previously, a rarity.

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    See above link. I've talked with nick on this matter a couple times now after Reading his book. I work with 3 of the complexes and various morphs within them.
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