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Switching to rats?
I know this is up for debate and there are many opinions out there, but when is a good time or weight to switch to rats? My bp is currently eating 1 normal mouse a week and has never refused a meal. She may have lost interest at one point but if i pick it back up and shake it again, she will strike it and gobble it down.
I have heard that feeding rats is more nutritious and want to get her over as soon as i can.
I did a weight in the day before feeding and she was teetering between 210 and 211. The mouse weighed in at 26 grams and is about the right size (in terms of the largest part of her body).
If it is not reasonable or safe to switch her over now its not a big deal, as I have about 20 mice in my freezer. Just wondering what the general consensus was for switching was.
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Re: Switching to rats?
Originally Posted by Brokenangelr
I know this is up for debate and there are many opinions out there, but when is a good time or weight to switch to rats? My bp is currently eating 1 normal mouse a week and has never refused a meal. She may have lost interest at one point but if i pick it back up and shake it again, she will strike it and gobble it down.
I have heard that feeding rats is more nutritious and want to get her over as soon as i can.
I did a weight in the day before feeding and she was teetering between 210 and 211. The mouse weighed in at 26 grams and is about the right size (in terms of the largest part of her body).
If it is not reasonable or safe to switch her over now its not a big deal, as I have about 20 mice in my freezer. Just wondering what the general consensus was for switching was.
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You can switch over any time you want. Sooner the better in my opinion. All of my snakes have been on rats since their first meal at hatchlings.
Rats have a higher fat content. But other than that, the nutritional value isn't much different from a mouse. However, feeding rats saves you time and effort. You can feed one rat instead of multiple adult mice in a single meal. And that's basically the biggest benefit.
Last edited by satomi325; 04-02-2012 at 05:14 PM.
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Re: Switching to rats?
Originally Posted by Brokenangelr
when is a good time or weight to switch to rats?
Right out of the egg! All of our balls are started on appropriate sized rats. From their first meal onward. Mice, in my opinion, are a waste of time unless you absolutely cannot get them to eat anything else.
Originally Posted by Brokenangelr
If it is not reasonable or safe to switch her over now its not a big deal
Young rats that are the same size of the mice you're feeding are by far safer than mice of the same size. However, all feedings, both live and f/t must be done responsibly otherwise both can be dangerous to your snake.
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Originally Posted by AK907
Right out of the egg! All of our balls are started on appropriate sized rats. From their first meal onward. Mice, in my opinion, are a waste of time unless you absolutely cannot get them to eat anything else.
Young rats that are the same size of the mice you're feeding are by far safer than mice of the same size. However, all feedings, both live and f/t must be done responsibly otherwise both can be dangerous to your snake.
I agree, well said.
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Re: Switching to rats?
Originally Posted by AK907
Right out of the egg! All of our balls are started on appropriate sized rats. From their first meal onward. Mice, in my opinion, are a waste of time unless you absolutely cannot get them to eat anything else.
Young rats that are the same size of the mice you're feeding are by far safer than mice of the same size. However, all feedings, both live and f/t must be done responsibly otherwise both can be dangerous to your snake.
X3 I feed mine rats as soon as I can
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Small rats, or rats that have just been weaned off their moms are going to be the closest size to a mouse. Commonly called "Weanlings, x-small, or small rats" in pet stores.
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Re: Switching to rats?
Hope this helps
MICE
Sm. Pink 1-2 grams
Lg. Pink 2-4 grams
Peach Fuzz 4-6 grams
Fuzzies 5-8 grams
Hoppers 8-12 grams
Sm. Mice 11-16 grams
Med. Mice 15-24 grams
Lg. Mice 24-28 grams
XLg. Mice 30 grams+
Rats:
Rat Sm. Pink 3-8 grams
Rat Lg. Pink 5-12 grams
Rat Fuzzies 10-20 grams
Rat Pup 20-30 grams
Rat Wean 30-45 grams
Rat Sm. 40-80 grams
Rat Med. 80-150 grams
Rat Lg. 140-200 grams
Rat XLg. 190-250 grams
Robie
2.0 Normal Ball Pythons Peek a Boo & Dezmond
1.0 Black Pewter Ball Python Pepe Le Pewter
0.1 Piebald Ball Python Slinky
0.1 Siberian Husky Danadog
2.5 Fancy Rat's Patch, Robin Hood, Lucky, Lucy, Bolt, Cinnamon, Patcheta
1.1 Great Kiddo's
0.1 Wonderful Wife
1.0 Awesome Dad (me)
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Re: Switching to rats?
Thanks to everyone for their speedy replies!
Next week I will look into rats. If she does not take the rat, is it best to wait a week and try again? She has been an awsome eater so I am hopeful that her switch over will be easy, but I won't put my money on it until I see it. I've seen plenty of the tales of the switch from mouse to rat.
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Re: Switching to rats?
Originally Posted by RestlessRobie
Hope this helps
MICE
Sm. Pink 1-2 grams
Lg. Pink 2-4 grams
Peach Fuzz 4-6 grams
Fuzzies 5-8 grams
Hoppers 8-12 grams
Sm. Mice 11-16 grams
Med. Mice 15-24 grams
Lg. Mice 24-28 grams
XLg. Mice 30 grams+
Rats:
Rat Sm. Pink 3-8 grams
Rat Lg. Pink 5-12 grams
Rat Fuzzies 10-20 grams
Rat Pup 20-30 grams
Rat Wean 30-45 grams
Rat Sm. 40-80 grams
Rat Med. 80-150 grams
Rat Lg. 140-200 grams
Rat XLg. 190-250 grams
Nice chart! This helps a lot thanks!
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