price dropping

[pigfat]

I was just watching an old Snake Bytes episode about the Spider ball python. Bryan said that when he bought his first spider, he spend $25,000 on it....and now look at what they're worth!

[mr.spooky]

i understand that everything runs its corse,, but dont yall think that some corses might be ran a little too fast?
spooky

[pigfat]

I think thats a fair statement to make. But honestly, I'm surprised that mostly everything has kept its value as well as it has over these rough past few years.

[Dave Green]

I was just watching an old Snake Bytes episode about the Spider ball python. Bryan said that when he bought his first spider, he spend $25,000 on it....and now look at what they're worth!

But...how much did he subsequently make off that spider? He was selling them each year as the price dropped. How many did he sell at $15k, $10k, $5k, etc?

[Royal Hijinx]

I am sure BHB made his money back and then some. He got in on it early, especially with the Pinstripe. I think there is money to be made if you are one of the first few to work with a morph that becomes popular, after that it is a gamble.

[Royal Hijinx]

I think thats a fair statement to make. But honestly, I'm surprised that mostly everything has kept its value as well as it has over these rough past few years.

I think that is a good point. The economy sucks and this is a business pretty much based on disposable income with the exception of professional breeders. People looking for pets have less disposable income.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Yes, I was actually pleased to see that in terms of price drop, we really only 'lost' about one year to the big crash. It could have been much worse.

Price drops on ball python morphs aren't ALWAYS predictable, but they do follow some trends.
In general, co-dominant morphs drop faster than recessive morphs.
'Popular' morphs will drop faster than less trendy ones, though less popular morphs may not be very high to start with.
(This is why spiders have come down so much).

Popular recessive morphs hold their value extremely well. In spite of being among the very first morphs discovered, look how long it's taken albinos to come down...and then look at where piebalds are STILL...it's impressive.

[RichsBallPythons]

If every John Doe would stop breeding every pair of snakes they get JUST to give it a try, The market wouldnt get flooded. I see way too many Kids 12+ breeding, and finding it Impossible to sell them unless its to other minors.

Most Breeders/Collectors like myself will not engage with minors on sales, So they have to find someone at lower prices. And this has been getting worse year after year.

Someone New joins the hobby, gets a few normals or pastels, and in a year are breeding them with a business name under their belt. When they cant sell, guess what, the price becomes very low so they can move it.

[WingedWolfPsion]

These folks should be helped out, rather than complained about.

Pet owners rarely buy morphs. Breeders buy morphs. New breeders are customers, not competitors. It's odd, but that's the way it's working.

That's my opinion.

[RichsBallPythons]

These folks should be helped out, rather than complained about.

Pet owners rarely buy morphs. Breeders buy morphs. New breeders are customers, not competitors. It's odd, but that's the way it's working.

That's my opinion.

Rare for you but I sold a good 40 hatching to pet owners that had no intentions of breeding since they bought all males form me.

Most breeders bought females from me not males, unless it was a genetic powerhouse. But avg pet owner will drop 1000$ on a snake just like they do for dogs and cats.

And new breeders buying from you, does become a competitor in 1-2 years when they breed that male you sold them to every normal female they have.