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I am a Canadian, I do not have a political voice at all. I have written a letter posted it and that about as much as I can do really. I have been watching this long drawn out struggle since its beginnings. Every change the government made USARK countered, a big game of chess. The legislation is still here, maybe it is time to stop playing chess.
I understand the passion I admire and relish it! Passion seems to becoming scarce these days. Hold on to it as that passion has great value. But perhaps a change of tactic is in order. I have not read this in tire thread just bits here and there. Perhaps a proposal should be proposed that would control the movement and purchasing of large constrictors but not place the power in the hands of the government but in your hands. The reptile industry has rallied together to fight the legislation it could be unified to come up with a set of controls to limit whom can own and keep (breed and sell) these animals.
We all know they are amazing creatures and can be rewarding and bring great joy and amazement to those whom keep them. They also can be a handful and too much for those whom are unprepared, there are many who should not own them (or any living thing for that matter) You the responsible keepers know who is ready and who is not why not propose a self governing and regulating of the large constrictors. You have the expertise not some politician it saves money for the government they get to say look I did something vote for me. You get to keep you animals in peace.
Falcons at least in my area have a great record of this the government differs to that community for all decisions and all regulations are written from that community and passed up to the government who enables them it works.
I believe in USARC I have and continue to support as best I can as a foreigner. I believe that the people proposing this have no idea of what massive mess this article will cause if passed, what will happen to the 1000s (100 000s) of snakes out there now? People demanding compensation for loss of income... on and on.
I hope this works out (again)
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States already have the right to create rules for those things. The Federal government doesn't need to get involved.
It's too late to remove the snakes from Florida, they are there, and no ban will change that now.
Which is why this addition to the Lacey Act is COMPLETELY USELESS. It doesn't accomplish ANY of the goals they claim for it.
Preventing me from taking a Burm from Omaha to Council Bluffs is going to benefit people, the environment, or the snakes...HOW?
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Re: U.S. set to approve python ban
I guess if that's the case i'll buy the red tail boa I saw on craigslist tank and all and he's about a year old and he says make me an offer. Plus he's albino I figure he'll probably take $100 he really needs him gone. My parents will be pissed but if it's my only chance to get a BCI..
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Coming soon:
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0.1 Mojave het Albino
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2.2 Cali Kings_______________________0.1 SSTP Black Blood
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Re: U.S. set to approve python ban
Originally Posted by BigJ
Yes, one of them being my best friend, and I can tell you that not only has the Army's General (idk his official term) come out and said that he would never fire on the American public, but the general consensus of the enlisted is that of standing up for our constitutional rights no matter what the Army would tell them...its hard to fight a war with no troops!
That's why we have such militarized police. If the military won't do it, militarized police will. Even the department of education has their own swat team now.
These are not the same as "Officer Friendly" the beat cop that would help anyone in town who needed a hand, whether it involved a "crime" or just someone needing a ride after getting a flat. You really need to read this article. It's not the military that'll directly stomp on the civil liberties of civies by arresting them for feeding the homeless [illegal in some parts of FL], sitting on a sidewalk [illegal in some parts of CA], or sleeping on a park bench after hours when you have no where else to go [illegal almost everywhere].
You just have to hope that your house isn't the next one they do a no-knock overly-armed search on when they "get the address wrong." Anyone can be the next José Guerena [a soldier who was just trying to protect his family]. The fact that no body even knows his name shows just what has become "normal" in this country.
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The reply I got after sending my letters last week... I wonder how many other of our reps had absolutely no idea that this was going on??
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Thank you for contacting me concerning the Lacey Act. I appreciate knowing your thoughts on this matter.
The Lacey Act was signed into law in 1900. It was the first federal law designed to protect wildlife and is administered by the Departments of Interior, Commerce, and Agriculture (USDA). Over the past century, the law has been amended several times to expand protection to a broader range of flora and fauna, and to control the potentially dangerous introduction of non-native species.
Most recently, the bill was amended by the 2008 Farm Bill to prohibit the import of illegally logged timber and timber products. This amendment included language from the Combat Illegal Logging Act of 2007, which was written to help curb illegal logging practices abroad by eliminating offenders’ access to the U.S. market.
I appreciate your concerns regarding the scope of the Lacey Act. Although no legislation has been introduced that would amend or defund the Lacey Act, I will keep your views in mind in case the matter is considered by the Senate in the future.
Again, thank you for your message. Please feel free to stay in touch on issues of importance to you.
Sincerely,
Richard J. Durbin
United States Senator
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Re: U.S. set to approve python ban
I feel that some of you are over reacting. You have to understand the state's point of view. With so many wild Burmese pythons living in the everglades, it is inevitably going to the affect the ecosystem.
Last edited by MikeJuggles; 01-18-2012 at 01:29 AM.
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Re: U.S. set to approve python ban
Originally Posted by MikeJuggles
I feel that some of you are over reacting. You have to understand the state's point of view. With so many wild Burmese pythons living in the everglades, it is inevitably going to the affect the ecosystem.
Can you prove how many Burmese are they? No. There aren't a lot there especially after the cold snap... and for you to simply say that is horrid. The ban should.be on.importing. Florida can do what it wants but it shouldn't be able to control the entire u.s. it's just showing yet again how close we are to the second revolution in the u.s.... time.to.move.to Canada....
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Originally Posted by zeion97
Can you prove how many Burmese are they? No. There aren't a lot there especially after the cold snap... and for you to simply say that is horrid. The ban should.be on.importing. Florida can do what it wants but it shouldn't be able to control the entire u.s. it's just showing yet again how close we are to the second revolution in the u.s.... time.to.move.to Canada....
Exactly! Obviously there aren't any that can be found now.. The cold snap did precisely what we thought it would do...
http://www.cnn.com/video/standard.ht...ons.vanish.cnn
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Re: U.S. set to approve python ban
Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90
I think I'm gonna go ahead and get an RTB this week or next just to be safe. Then move to Canada. Lol
im with ya on that one
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