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    Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule

    Snakes alive! Giant pythons in the Everglades are the latest focal point in the Hill’s partisan squabble over federal regulations that House Republicans say are squeezing the nation’s job growth.

    At issue is a proposed rule from the Interior Department that would designate the Burmese python and eight other snake species as “injurious,” which would make it illegal to import them or transport them across state lines.

    The ban has been a pet cause of Florida Sen. Bill Nelson, who called for Interior to take action based on estimates that 100,000 or more pythons are dwelling in the Everglades, where scientists say they feast on herons, egrets and other native species.

    The issue exploded into a media sensation six years ago after a photographer captured an image of a decapitated python that had burst after swallowing a 6-foot alligator. Some scientists have warned that the snakes might eventually spread throughout much of the U.S., with potentially suitable climate for some species existing as far north as coastal Delaware or Oregon.

    But in a report released Wednesday, Republicans on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee denounced the proposed rule as part of the Obama administration’s “regulatory tsunami.” They said the snake ban could “devastate a small but thriving sector of the economy.”

    Snake breeder and herpetologist David Barker testified at a committee hearing Wednesday that the rule would hurt the livelihoods of people like him.

    “It threatens as many as a million law-abiding American citizens and their families with the penalty of a felony conviction for pursuing their livelihoods, for pursuing their hobby, or for simply moving with their pet to a new state,” Barker told the panel.

    Barker also warned about the impact of the rule on existing pets. “What’s going to happen to the million or so animals that suddenly are without value?” he said. “The implementation of the proposed action may precipitate the greatest slaughter of pet animals in American history.”

    House Democrats scoffed at the idea that snake regulations would be major impediments to job growth.

    “With all due respect to our witnesses from the Association of Reptile Keepers, repealing a so-called job-killing regulation to allow more pythons, boa constrictors and anacondas into the United States is not the kind of bold, bipartisan solution Americans are looking for to help the economy,” said Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), ranking member of the oversight panel.

    In a statement Wednesday afternoon, a spokesman for Nelson (D-Fla.) said that “respectfully, the House Oversight Committee might just be wrong on this one.”

    “I mean, how many people line up outside Walmart on Black Friday to buy a python?” the spokesman said. “Rules like this are carefully weighed, narrowly targeted and aimed at protecting the public safety and welfare.”

    The Republicans highlighted the draft rule in their report, which denounced a host of Obama administration regulations.
    In discussing the python issue, the report describes the proposed snake regulation as “a solution in search of a problem,” pointing to contrary research from some scientists who found evidence that cold weather could keep the pythons from spreading much beyond subtropical South Florida.

    But Everglades National Park spokeswoman Linda Friar said in an interview that the python problem is real.

    “We’re extremely concerned,” she said. “The real turning point was when we saw that they started to breed in this habitat.”

    Friar added that the proposed federal rules would help deal with the threat, which some scientists blame on pets whose owners released them after becoming unable or unwilling to continue caring for the animals.

    While Florida has tightened its regulations on some python species — for example, requiring snakes to be implanted with a microchip identifying the owner — that doesn’t address everyone who buys the reptiles, Friar said.

    “You can go online and not purchase in a store in Florida,” she said. “You could probably do it in 10 minutes.”

    In and near the park, the number of Burmese pythons removed has soared from just two in 2000 to 367 in 2009. Last year, it dipped slightly to 322.

    “The Burmese python and these other alien snakes are destroying some of our nation’s most treasured — and most fragile — ecosystems,” Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said in a statement last year.

    Salazar added: “The Interior Department and states such as Florida are taking swift and common sense action to control and eliminate the populations of these snakes, but it is an uphill battle in ecosystems where they have no natural predators. If we are going to succeed, we must shut down the importation of the snakes and end the interstate commerce and transportation of them.”


    Aside from the Burmese pythons, Friar said, some other large, aggressive snake species have been turning up outside the park, including anacondas and African rock pythons.

    The African rock python has been known in rare cases to attack and even eat humans. Florida has yet to see any attacks on humans by pythons in the wild, although Nelson has pointed to one case in which a pet Burmese python that escaped from its cage strangled a 2-year-old girl elsewhere in the house.
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    Wish the comments weren't so nasty on that post. Hopefully things start looking up..

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    what i find interesting but noone ever discusses

    and yes, i have written letters to my representativesin ky - they are basically uninterested - they will vote along party lines - at any rate - here's my thinking - the snakes that are there now are not going away - the habitat is perfect for them - they are NOT going away - they are now "native" to the area and they as we all know can not and will not live in areas that do not provide the right temps - keep fighting for us USARK - your work is not unnoticed by the reptile nation

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    a python being able to live let alone thrive somewhere as cold as oregon or deleware is CRAZY... they can hardly take a cold winter in florida.. god forbid there should be snow lol

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    only ever seen one boa loose in delaware and she was close to dying when I was called was n exscaped pet and she now doing educational shows with one of my friends buddy's
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    I hate to state the obvious but it seem counter productive to make it harder for people that own these snakes to keep them. I could see it increasing the number of snakes released. It creates a very big problem. Illegal ownership--- Unable to resale---- Love this animal and don't want it killed.... I know kittens are put out on the street for a lot less. Just saying...

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    Re: Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule

    Quote Originally Posted by ER12 View Post
    House Democrats scoffed at the idea that snake regulations would be major impediments to job growth.
    It's definitely gonna destroy the businesses that already exist.

    Being forced "out of business" is quite an "impediment to job growth", I'd say.

    Before last week, I had no idea there were so many large, thriving herp businesses online.

    I was literally amazed.

    That's a lot of personal investment and income at stake.

    This weekend I discovered that there's a "Repticon" 2 hours from here and it's huge and happens several times a year.

    What about those people's financial futures?

    There are a lot of "unintended consequences" at play, here.

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    Re: Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule

    Quote Originally Posted by MoshBalls View Post
    I hate to state the obvious but it seem counter productive to make it harder for people that own these snakes to keep them. I could see it increasing the number of snakes released. It creates a very big problem. Illegal ownership--- Unable to resale---- Love this animal and don't want it killed.... I know kittens are put out on the street for a lot less. Just saying...

    It's happened before.

    "Well meaning" people lobbied to outlaw horse slaughter in the US and were successful.
    Now the horses are driven unbelievably brutal distances to be slaughtered in Canada and Mexico, instead.
    [and in Mexico, it is not even remotely "humanely done"]

    After the law was passed, thousands of now-worthless horses were turned loose all over the place.

    In TN, alone, there were so many abandoned horses wandering the wilds it was incredible.

    While I detest the thought of horse slaughter, it's better than slow starvation, dying of exposure and disease, not mention the danger posed to cars.

    This law would potentially be the serpentine version of that law.

    Abandoned snakes slowly starving, freezing, vulnerable to torture and attack...the possibilities are horrible and limitless.

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    Re: Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule

    Quote Originally Posted by zach_24_90 View Post
    a python being able to live let alone thrive somewhere as cold as oregon or deleware is CRAZY... they can hardly take a cold winter in florida.. god forbid there should be snow lol

    MD/DE winters are brutal.

    Subzero temps are "normal".

    They wouldn't even survive early fall, let alone winter.

    That article is hysterical, fear mongering hyperbole.

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    Re: Snake, rattle, roll: GOP targets python rule

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    Wish the comments weren't so nasty on that post. Hopefully things start looking up..
    Where are the comments located, please?

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