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Re: Banana males taking a 20K price drop!!??
Agreed with all others have said. Supply and demand. I cant wait to see more hot morphs crossed into the banana project. The glass isnt half empty, its half full
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Re: Banana males taking a 20K price drop!!??
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Re: Banana males taking a 20K price drop!!??
Originally Posted by Deborah
Don't we all love some good rumors
Seeing this first post I can't wait to see what the second will be about.........more rumors maybe.
Haha!
But seriously, they have to drop sooner or later. Supply and demand, like everyone already said. And it's a dominant trait, so even if no males are being produced from males or what have you, sooner or later even the males will sell for $20k, then $10k, and on down to pastel land.
I wonder if banana will play nice with pied? You just KNOW somebody's already working on it.
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Now i'm craving banana pie... dang y'all...
The combos are where people are now figuring out they can make more high dollar morphs. Combos are proving to be almost more killer than the originals can hope to be. That means the second tier people are also making great money(the ones buying those $50K animals).
I figure, more power to them. Would I love to discover something new and cool? Absolutely! Am I going to say there's some big conspiracy to trample 'the little guys' just because I can't afford a $50K snake? No, I'm not. I'll happily watch the pictures of the originals and combos until something I want comes down in price enough for me to afford the makings of it. I'll be five years behind the guys making history(morph history anyway), but I don't mind.
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Can't say it any better Deborah.
Banana pies sound really great though
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I really think for anything that is a co-dom morph that has a start price that high is just insane. not sure why or how people ask for/pay that much. and normally it seems to be from the top breeders who trade with one another because they have the $$ to do it or they trade animals. more of a redistribution of funds of the ball python elite.
I am and always have been in the belief that our hobby and the color morphs we make will never have a true value until it is something in a crummy pet store, or at the very least an entry level morph. I say this because it is a constant cycle of reinvesting. Now there are small gains here and there, but for the most part it isnt a high profit industry for "the little guy" which is why i never understood these outrageous prices for a new morph. It keeps them out of reach for the people who you ultimately want to own them.
Also dont understand it because, IT IS A CO-DOM! i mean in 4-5 years it should be about 1-2k range at best. and they seem to mainly make males, which puts the rate of growth much much higher.
kind of a rant but just my thoughts.
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It's a high price because a buyer will get a immediate pay-off. If it were recessive, the buyer would have to either buy both sexes, or wait addition seasons to breed hets, grow hets and breed them back in order to get the morph.
So anything that makes things happen faster = higher price. Same as buying an adult morph vs a hatchling morph. You pay more for a decrease in the total time for 'payout' or producing your own morph babies.
Conversely, a recessive morph cost the originating person a lot more to create, so their prices can also be high.
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Re: Banana males taking a 20K price drop!!??
Originally Posted by eel588
Only $30,000!? I better break open the piggy bank.
LOL
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
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Re: Banana males taking a 20K price drop!!??
Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
It's a high price because a buyer will get a immediate pay-off. If it were recessive, the buyer would have to either buy both sexes, or wait addition seasons to breed hets, grow hets and breed them back in order to get the morph.
So anything that makes things happen faster = higher price. Same as buying an adult morph vs a hatchling morph. You pay more for a decrease in the total time for 'payout' or producing your own morph babies.
Conversely, a recessive morph cost the originating person a lot more to create, so their prices can also be high.
thats a really good point. didnt think of that. counter point awarded
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Give it time, When bananas are produced year after year from these guys that have them, and cant sell them at 30k price will continue ot drop so their not over loaded.
What happens to most who over produce something and can't move them.. You drop your price till you find the right price and it sells. And those who buy and breed them will sell for the price they bought it for or lower to sell it. Which in end creates the domino effect of killing the price over time sooner than some think.
Its like you buy a banana for 30k, then produce a few and cant get 30k for them so you drop to 25k. Someone buys for 25k and does the same thing over and over till they bottom out. Happens to everything new till they hit rock bottom
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