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    What are these

    So interested in branching off and breeding my asfs selectivly once i get going. Saw these advertised on a local herp forum.. Advertised as albino and appricot.. But i already read somewhere there is no such thing as albino yet.

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    You are right, there is no such thing as albino in ASFs.

    The ones in the photos there are Argente, which is the pink eye diluted form of agouti, Agouti, which is the natural ticked brown colour, and cinnamon which is a light form of agouti, caused by a recessive dilution gene.

    There is also head spot variegation markings on many of them.
    This manifests usually in 3 stripes on the head some people refer to it as 'badger' markings. They can also have a solid white head, and some spots on their rump.

    Hope this helps!

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    Have u ever heard of them refered to as apricot. Ive seen a few different ads that refer to them as that up here in canada.. And they r pricey.. 20 bucks an animal. Vs 5-10 normallu
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    Only like twice. It is not the correct term. They are argente.
    They are not worth any more than the other ones. In fact, if you buy a bunch from someone who has them mixed like that, and you don't buy any argente, you're almost guaranteed to get argente later in your litters because it is recessive, and the agouti and cinnamons likely carry it.

    If you get any in a litter that are cinnamon and argente, they are calle 'cinnamon argente' and are a lighter tan colour.

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    Yeh everyone arround here calls them apricot. Ive refered them over to ur genetics chart on the asf forum. Alsssooo.. Any idea when your spamm issue will be fixed? Id love to use that forum but its too congested atm.
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    I don't think it will ever be fixed.
    The owner of the forum has disapeared and doesn't respond to email, PM, or IMs.
    Not sure what's happened to him. Can't even contact him through his website.


    It was just starting to pick up over there, when he disapeared. I'm a moderator, but not an administrator, which means I can't fix the spam problem. I can delete posts, and ban accounts, but they post up to 200 spam messages each day, and I can't keep up. It has to be coded to prevent spam of that caliber, and I can't do it unless I'm an admin, and without the owner there, I can't get admin powers. . . How awful!

    But back on topic. If you bought some of the plain agouti (cheaper ones) from that person that keeps them together like that, and you bred them together, I can nearly guarantee that after 1-2 generations of ASF crossbreeding, you will get Argente, because they probably all carry the recessive gene for pink eye.

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