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Trouble with warm side temps
So my new (and very first) BP arrived today! Pics will follow tonight when I get home
I'm having some trouble getting my warm side of my tank at just the right temp. I have a ZooMed UTH and a thermostat from Big Apple Herp. Links below to the exact product. I have to keep the thermostat set on about 81 in order for the temp to be 91-92. If I have the thermostat set on 90 (the temp I would like it to be) it kicks up the temp to like 116.
I have the thermostat probe placed between the tank and the UTH and the thermometer (digital) probe placed on the glass where the mat is. Do I have this setup correctly? Could it be why I can't get my temps just right?
UTH: http://www.zoomed.com/db/products/En...I7czoxOiIwIjt9
Thermostat: http://www.bigappleherp.com/BAH-1000-Thermostat
Thermometer: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ef=oss_product
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0.1 Normal (Possible morph) BP "Lindsay"
0.1 Pied BP "Jezebel"
0.1 Common Collared Lizard "Reptar"
0.1 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Duchess"
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You may have to raise the overall temps in the room your snake is housed in. What is the temp in the room?
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The temp in the room is usually between 65-70. I usually have the heat set to 70 since its been chilly here.
1.0 Lesser BP "Buster"
0.1 Pastel BP "Lucille"
0.1 Mojave BP "Maeby"
0.1 Normal (Possible morph) BP "Lindsay"
0.1 Pied BP "Jezebel"
0.1 Common Collared Lizard "Reptar"
0.1 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Duchess"
1.0 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Sterling"
1.0 Snow Leopard Gecko "Leo"
0.0.1 Hermann's tortoise "Sheldon"
3 spoiled dogs, 1 red devil midas, 4 fiddler crabs
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People might say what ur doin is right but my short amount of experience is that if ur thermometer probe and ur thermostat probe are not in the same spot then that will happen the thermostat probe tells the thermostat to keep heating ur mat until the probe is at 90 so if ur thermometer probe is in a different spot then the temps ur thermoset probe is reading and the temp ur thermometer probe reads will be different so that is probably ur problem
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Re: Trouble with warm side temps
Originally Posted by dryates
People might say what ur doin is right but my short amount of experience is that if ur thermometer probe and ur thermostat probe are not in the same spot then that will happen the thermostat probe tells the thermostat to keep heating ur mat until the probe is at 90 so if ur thermometer probe is in a different spot then the temps ur thermoset probe is reading and the temp ur thermometer probe reads will be different so that is probably ur problem
I have the thermometer probe in the same spot as the thermostat probe except the thermostat probe is between the UTH and the glass on the bottom and the thermometer is on top of the glass in the tank. I was reading the manual for my UTH and it says to put some carpet on the glass in the tank so the glass doesn't burn the snake. Well if I keep my thermostat down to like 80, it keeps the temp at like 92. So maybe my thermostat is broken, I'll just keep an eye on it.
1.0 Lesser BP "Buster"
0.1 Pastel BP "Lucille"
0.1 Mojave BP "Maeby"
0.1 Normal (Possible morph) BP "Lindsay"
0.1 Pied BP "Jezebel"
0.1 Common Collared Lizard "Reptar"
0.1 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Duchess"
1.0 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Sterling"
1.0 Snow Leopard Gecko "Leo"
0.0.1 Hermann's tortoise "Sheldon"
3 spoiled dogs, 1 red devil midas, 4 fiddler crabs
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Re: Trouble with warm side temps
Originally Posted by nicolehh11
I have the thermometer probe in the same spot as the thermostat probe except the thermostat probe is between the UTH and the glass on the bottom and the thermometer is on top of the glass in the tank. I was reading the manual for my UTH and it says to put some carpet on the glass in the tank so the glass doesn't burn the snake. Well if I keep my thermostat down to like 80, it keeps the temp at like 92. So maybe my thermostat is broken, I'll just keep an eye on it.
if the themo probe is under the tank its prolly gonnna be alot hotter than the stat probe inside the tank that maybe y theres a weird temp difference. I dont really know y u r measuring directly on the uth I thought the only time u do that is when using a heat rack. if the thermometer is where ur basing ur temp measurement it should be inside the enclosure not directly on the heating source. This is just what I have learned and part my of my own opinion pretty sure some one knows better. but I have used both tank and now im using rack with heat tape
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Re: Trouble with warm side temps
Originally Posted by nicolehh11
I have the thermometer probe in the same spot as the thermostat probe except the thermostat probe is between the UTH and the glass on the bottom and the thermometer is on top of the glass in the tank. I was reading the manual for my UTH and it says to put some carpet on the glass in the tank so the glass doesn't burn the snake. Well if I keep my thermostat down to like 80, it keeps the temp at like 92. So maybe my thermostat is broken, I'll just keep an eye on it.
You have the probes in the correct places. What type of substrate are you using and how thick is it on the warm side?
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I'm using aspen and its about 2 in thick. I just bought a heat lamp to try instead of the uth and see how that works.
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1.0 Lesser BP "Buster"
0.1 Pastel BP "Lucille"
0.1 Mojave BP "Maeby"
0.1 Normal (Possible morph) BP "Lindsay"
0.1 Pied BP "Jezebel"
0.1 Common Collared Lizard "Reptar"
0.1 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Duchess"
1.0 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Sterling"
1.0 Snow Leopard Gecko "Leo"
0.0.1 Hermann's tortoise "Sheldon"
3 spoiled dogs, 1 red devil midas, 4 fiddler crabs
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Re: Trouble with warm side temps
Originally Posted by nicolehh11
I'm using aspen and its about 2 in thick. I just bought a heat lamp to try instead of the uth and see how that works.
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Try reducing your subtrate thickness on the warm side to about 1/2"-1". When the substrate is too thick it acts like an insulator and causes the heat to build up. If you reduce the substrate thickness to about 1 inch or less, it will let the heat dissipate and radiate into the enclosure easier and should give you closer readings between what your thermostat is set at and what your thermometer is reading on the glass... Hope this helps.
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So I switched to the heat lamp, it seems to be giving me better temp regulation. I have it hooked up to the thermostat. I have it set for 89 but it goes up to 93. Once it hits 93, it shuts off and cools down to 88 then kicks back on. It at least feels warmer in there, so I'm going to try this method until I can figure out what's up with the uth. I think when I change out his substrate I will try a different kind.
1.0 Lesser BP "Buster"
0.1 Pastel BP "Lucille"
0.1 Mojave BP "Maeby"
0.1 Normal (Possible morph) BP "Lindsay"
0.1 Pied BP "Jezebel"
0.1 Common Collared Lizard "Reptar"
0.1 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Duchess"
1.0 New Mexico Fancy Collared Lizard "Sterling"
1.0 Snow Leopard Gecko "Leo"
0.0.1 Hermann's tortoise "Sheldon"
3 spoiled dogs, 1 red devil midas, 4 fiddler crabs
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