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heading home from work so I'm shutting down now but here is a link to give you some of your history......................................
Razor's Edge
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Razors Edge is more or less a breeders title. There are a lot of gray areas there unless you have the UKC 7gen papers on your dog. A lot of the big names you hear now are "watered down" blood lines. My Marley (UKC aka Pautes Peanut Butter) was a Thug, Monster, Juan Gotti (bred back to Monster), Chantilly Lace, and Most Wanted baby. Those are a few of the big names in her blood line, and for that I could claim them all. The genetics in my couch potato were crazy! Everyone thought I was shooting her with steroids
Here are some pics from her heritage...........
Marley
Thug-sire
Taboo-dam(Taboo-dam)
Chantilly Lace-grandma
Monster-great grandpa(Tilly Lace-sire)
Juan Gotti-great great grandpa (Monster-sire)
Most Wanted-great great grandpa (Slick-sire)
Slick-grandpa (Taboo-sire)
I could go on, but you get the point LOL
I just loved this girl more than anything in the world and could show her off for hours, ......even in the after life
supposedly these are the first triple bouncers. well see when there papers come.
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
heading home from work so I'm shutting down now but here is a link to give you some of your history......................................
Razor's Edge
Interesting link on RE, thanks. So, from that link am I reading that a dog can be registered as both a UKC APBT and a ABKC bully? I'm guess I'm having a hard time with these two, a bully is a bully, not an APBT, right? The bullys were created by crossing AMstaffs & APBT to create a new dog the AM bully, correct? Am I missing something here?
Thanks
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by DMTWI
Interesting link on RE, thanks. So, from that link am I reading that a dog can be registered as both a UKC APBT and a ABKC bully? I'm guess I'm having a hard time with these two, a bully is a bully, not an APBT, right? The bullys were created by crossing AMstaffs & APBT to create a new dog the AM bully, correct? Am I missing something here?
Thanks
American Staffordshire(AKC register) Terriers are the same as an American Pitbull Terrier(UKC register), granted a "TRUE" Staffordshire is much smaller that what we know as American Pitbulls. Staffys run 30 to 40 pounds while the other 2 (1) can range from 50 to 90 pounds.
Now an "American Bully" is a whole different mix................Short, low and wide. Kind of like the low-riders of the bully breeds. I think they are now a legit breed of their own. Originally the ""game"APBT crossed with an English Bulldog, they are cool to look at but not too much for endurance.
Now they are also doing tri-colors like a rottie.
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
RE/ABK are American Bullies. UKC/AKC are American Staffordshire Terriers. ADBA are American Pitbull Terriers.
There's a huge difference in all three of these breeds.
ABK type clubs breed for size, color, temperament(to a degree)
AKC/UKC type clubs breed for conformation.
ADBA type clubs breed for gameness.
All of which gives you a very different looking dog.
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by merdcme
well for christmas my brother and sister in law gave us an offer we couldn't refuse. see i had swore. of all mamals, i definatly swore id never getanother puppy. and now look at me. two new puppys! let the fun begin!!!
they are both males and 7 1/2 weeks old. they are HUGE and growing very fast.
the smaller one with the solid blue pattern is mine. his name is wabisuke or wabi for short. he was the runt but his pattern was the most semetrical so i had to go with him. the other big boy is my fiance's and she hasn't named him yet.
p.s. and i thought balls were hard to photograpgh. puppys are impossible. i promiss i'll post better pics soon.
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this is there daddy "the bouncer". hes actually a pretty famous stud. (sorry for stealling pics of him)[IMG] [/IMG][IMG] [/IMG]
O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!! O my Gosh !!!
They are Fracking Awesome especially one with no white on The Face...
Why I cant have dog right now....
Good Luck With Them
Last edited by Aes_Sidhe; 01-04-2011 at 06:14 PM.
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by chessfighter
RE/ABK are American Bullies. UKC/AKC are American Staffordshire Terriers. ADBA are American Pitbull Terriers.
There's a huge difference in all three of these breeds.
ABK type clubs breed for size, color, temperament(to a degree)
AKC/UKC type clubs breed for conformation.
ADBA type clubs breed for gameness.
All of which gives you a very different looking dog.
Agreed to a point..........
AKC doesnt recognize an APBT, hence the AMStaff.
UKC recognizes both.
ABDA recognizes all "pit" dog from their fighting history.
Yes you get different looks depending what they are bred with to gain or loose traits.
All must conform to temperament, period. Even ABDA in its fighting days, if any dog showed human aggression it was killed. Yes, even in the ring the dogs were not allowed to bark, snap, or bite at the handlers or judge.
This breeds history goes way back to before this country was around and it is a very honorable past. Most people dont want to know about it or hear about it but the more you learn and understand it, the more you will learn to appreciate you dog. Bottom line is they will do anything you ask of them
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Agreed to a point..........
AKC doesnt recognize an APBT, hence the AMStaff.
UKC recognizes both.
ABDA recognizes all "pit" dog from their fighting history.
Yes you get different looks depending what they are bred with to gain or loose traits.
All must conform to temperament, period. Even ABDA in its fighting days, if any dog showed human aggression it was killed. Yes, even in the ring the dogs were not allowed to bark, snap, or bite at the handlers or judge.
This breeds history goes way back to before this country was around and it is a very honorable past. Most people dont want to know about it or hear about it but the more you learn and understand it, the more you will learn to appreciate you dog. Bottom line is they will do anything you ask of them
Hey check this out
http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showt...al+comparisons
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Re: our new babys!!! razors edge pups
Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
Now they are also doing tri-colors like a rottie.
and they are amazing looking imo. i love it. to give credit where credit is due heres the link to the kennel the stud male came from. they have some killer tri-colors, and are just an awesomely stacked kennel. http://www.ultimatebluepitbulls.com/index.html
you've got to check out there breeders. i love the blue tri-colors
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Last edited by dr del; 01-06-2011 at 10:59 AM.
Reason: hotlinking I'm afraid but a link to it is fine ;-)
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