Do all morphs get "head wobble"?

[yeroc1982]

We are looking to buy our first morph, dont really know much about all the kinds of morphs and what to look for. But i have seen and herd that certain morphs get the wobble and that is somthing i would like to avoid.

[bsash]

Nope, the only morph with the known genetic head wobble is the spider, and any of their combinations. Hope that helps some! Good luck with getting into the morphs and I hope you really enjoy it when the time comes.

[mykee]

Yup, ALL spiders and ALL spider morphs wobble. Whether it's obvious at birth, or it shows itself at a year of age, they ALL wobble.

[Hypnotic Exotic]

I've heard some woma's do as well but I believe that's it (I'm referring to the regular woma - I haven't heard of this with NERD's Hidden Gene Woma which is a completely different morph). It varies though. I haven't noticed my spider wobbling at all. If she does, it isn't noticeable. Even when she feeds, she strikes and coils just like any other ball python.

[llovelace]

My spider is an '07 he doesn't have a wobble

[steveboos]

Keep in mind these snakes can live 40 Years and since the Spider genetics are fairly weak, I can definitely see them developing it over time. Some show it at birth and some display it down the road, but it doesn't really affect anything as far as personality or the way they act.

[bsash]

I've heard some woma's do as well but I believe that's it (I'm referring to the regular woma - I haven't heard of this with NERD's Hidden Gene Woma which is a completely different morph). It varies though. I haven't noticed my spider wobbling at all. If she does, it isn't noticeable. Even when she feeds, she strikes and coils just like any other ball python.

Thank you for bringing this up, it is true that some Woma Ball Pythons wobble, but it is not believed to be genetic like the Spider. However it is still unknown why it happens with some Womas and not others. Also, you are correct that there are no issues with the Hidden Gene Woma, just the regular Woma, the only known issue with the Hidden Gene Woma is that their super, the Pearl, fails to thrive.

[Hypnotic Exotic]

There was actually a thread on here recently that NERD has some Pearls that are okay now but not sure if they did it by outcrossing or what.

[mykee]

"My spider is an '07 he doesn't have a wobble "

Yeah, I hear that all the time. I've never seen nor produced a non-wobbling spider (over time) and I think I've produced and seen enough to confidently say that you are either lying or mistaken.
If you in fact have a spider that doesn't wobble, congratulations, it's a one of a kind and is worth roughly 14 million dollars.
EDIT: I think some people see "wobble" and think that if the animals head doesn't vibrate or shake, then it's unaffected.
The "wobble" that spiders are so known for is not just a head shake persay; it includes twisting the head upside down, corkscrewing, stargazing, and other "abnormal" characteristics that are not seen in "normal" morphs.

[janett]

I have heard of a lot of people saying "my spider doesn't wobble". I have a beautiful spider. He doesn't wobble unless he is excited (mating season, holding, etc) or unless its late in the evening. Also, he doesn't strike. He eats F/T I have to put it in the bin with him and leave it in there, he goes right up to it and eats it. I've never seen him coil, or strike. Spider's have a wobble, regardless of the LINE or the BREEDER. Any breeder who tells you that their LINE has no Spider's with a wobble is either lying or really uneducated. Some Spiders are worse than others, some are like mine (only certain times, situations) some start wobbling as hatchlings, some later on. Any more info on that Pearl that NERD had? I saw someone mentioned it up in one of the posts.