Unexpected Eggs

[Ash]

I have actually seen that big-eyed condition before. There was an 09 pied male for sale on kingsnake and they were letting it go for about $500 less than pieds were worth at the time. They were suggesting that despite his deformity, he still possessed the pied gene and was worth breeding. I wasn't so sure about that...

Anyway, I am very interested to know whether the babies are all male or all female. I at first assumed they must be all female because I didn't know about the ZW chromosome system, but now I'm not sure. If we knew what gender they were, it might shed some light on what chromosome system ball pythons go by. Interesting stuff!

[reggi-BP]

so how r they doing did u talk to someone about her having eggs let us know

[mpkeelee]

anything new going on with the wee ones??

[santino34]

The kids are all doing fine. Thanks for asking. The vet asked us to bring Bugsy in yesterday for a check up and she gave her the thumbs up. Rocco and Cleo both shed yesterday. Bugsy shed tonight and her eye is much better. The big crusty eye cap came off and revealed a much better looking eye.

I never heard from anyone at the museum, so I e-mailed their biology dept and attached a link to this thread. Maybe I'll hear from them or maybe not. Who knows, maybe they dont believe me. I guess if I dont hear from them by the end of next week I'll contact the herp society in Cinci. Thanks again guys.

[mpkeelee]

im glad everyone is going ok, do u have any pics u can put up of them? i would love to see them freshly shed

[mainbutter]

All babies should be females.

Are you sure?

I know NOTHING about sex determination in snakes, or if its common across all snake species.

The komodo dragon (also able to reproduce via parthenogenesis) uses the ZW system, reversed from the XY system, where the female is ZW and the male is ZZ. This lets komodo females reproducing via parthenogenesis have both male and female offspring.

Does anyone know about snakes?

edit: my girlfriend (who usually knows these things) says that all snakes use the ZW system, so the snakes could be either male or female.

[Lesserbee]

Are you sure?

I know NOTHING about sex determination in snakes, or if its common across all snake species.

The komodo dragon (also able to reproduce via parthenogenesis) uses the ZW system, reversed from the XY system, where the female is ZW and the male is ZZ. This lets komodo females reproducing via parthenogenesis have both male and female offspring.

Does anyone know about snakes?

edit: my girlfriend (who usually knows these things) says that all snakes use the ZW system, so the snakes could be either male or female.

PM sent!

[anatess]

PM sent!

But we wanna know too!

[sarahlovesmiike]

I would think that any temperature spikes or drops could account for the different patterns. I'd like to see a new picture of Bugsy. This is so interesting!

[santino34]

Unfortunately I'm out of town this weekend and wont be able to take and post new pics until Monday. I cant wait to see Bugsy myself because I'm just going by what my daughter told me on the phone. I also need to try and feed them when I get home. Should I try live mice or frozen pinkies?