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06-13-2014, 11:29 PM
#101
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Not Again!!
I know this is an old thread, but my old a$$ Ball Eptius did it again! I have 4 new eggs and 3 or so slugs. I'll post pics of mom, the baby I kept from last time and of the new batch sometime this weekend. My wife and kids are all in disbelief that this happened again.
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06-15-2014, 08:32 PM
#102
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Re: Not Again!!
Originally Posted by santino34
I know this is an old thread, but my old a$$ Ball Eptius did it again! I have 4 new eggs and 3 or so slugs. I'll post pics of mom, the baby I kept from last time and of the new batch sometime this weekend. My wife and kids are all in disbelief that this happened again.
Haha, for real? Did you ever get the genetics of the last clutch checked out? Were they mommy clones? If you didn't get it the last time, make sure you get it this time! What baby did you keep? Cleo? If I didn't live in sweden I'd buy cleo without one second of hesitation. I hope you get some more cleos this time too!
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06-15-2014, 09:41 PM
#103
Re: Unexpected Eggs
Thats so cool
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1.1yellow belly
1.0 desert enchi
1.0 pastel
1.0 het russo
1.0 lemon pastel
0.1 spider
2.0 normal
1.0 striped corn
0.1.0 normal corn
1.0 columbian rianbow boa
1.0 super hypo bci
0.2 leopard geckos
0.1.0 water dragon
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06-23-2014, 11:10 AM
#104
Registered User
love this thread
I've just got my first ball python a month ago and joined and read this thread. How exciting that I get to the last page and find that its is happening again! I have a degree in conservation and wildlife management an I am super fascinated with evolution and this story has me thinking about why this would happen to a snake so old. I have a theory. There is a common occurrence with a lot of trees in which they will normally produce nuts or seeds once every several years, but when under stress, facing disease or impending death they will drop nuts every year until they die to give them the best chance of passing on their genetics. I wonder if after living so long and possibly never encountering a male Epitus's body decided the only way to pass on her genes would be to clone herself. Just a theory but it is absolutely fascinating.
Keep updating please.
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04-18-2016, 01:02 AM
#105
Re: Unexpected Eggs
Nice story. Its a pity I did not hear of this when it happened. We genetically confirmed parthenogenesis in ball pythons and reticulated pythons (and raised questions regarding the case in Burmese pythons) in a paper published in 2014. We currently have data from 7 or 8 clutches of ball pythons, a clutch of bloods, a clutch of Children's, and several clutches of retics, when it comes to pythons.
Booth, W., Schuett, GW., Ridgway, A., Buxton, DW., Castoe, TA., Bastone, G., Bennett, C. & McMahan, Wm. 2014. New Insights on facultative parthenogenesis in pythons. Biological Journal of the Linnean Society. 112, 461-468.
Click on the hyperlinked title for the paper.
Do you have any update on this second clutch or the offspring from the first.
Warren
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04-18-2016, 02:07 AM
#106
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Re: Unexpected Eggs
Originally Posted by Warren_Booth
Nice story. Its a pity I did not hear of this when it happened. We genetically confirmed parthenogenesis in ball pythons and reticulated pythons (and raised questions regarding the case in Burmese pythons) in a paper published in 2014. We currently have data from 7 or 8 clutches of ball pythons, a clutch of bloods, a clutch of Children's, and several clutches of retics, when it comes to pythons.
Booth, W., Schuett, GW., Ridgway, A., Buxton, DW., Castoe, TA., Bastone, G., Bennett, C. & McMahan, Wm. 2014. New Insights on facultative parthenogenesis in pythons. Biological Journal of the Linnean Society. 112, 461-468.
Click on the hyperlinked title for the paper.
Do you have any update on this second clutch or the offspring from the first.
Warren
I second this. I'm definitely interested in seeing what happened with the second clutch.
"Your absence has gone through me like thread through a needle. Everything I do is stitched with its color."
-W.S. Merwin
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04-18-2016, 03:27 AM
#107
So what happened in the first clutch and the one from 2014? The op didn't give a update?
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04-18-2016, 09:27 AM
#108
Looking at the activity of the original poster, I think we are unlikely to hear about an update any time soon.
I will have soon cool news about ball python parthenogenesis soon. Just waiting for the last results to come off the sequencer.
Warren
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04-18-2016, 02:20 PM
#109
Yep... OP hasnt been here since 06.13.2014
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