quick ? about Wobbles...

[cordell]

I have been doing reading on BPs. I came across a thing called Wobbles, so You Tube showed me what Head Wobbles are. Is this a morph thing only, or can all BPs do this, even norms?

thanks

[Sarin]

As of right now, as far as I know, only Spiders seem to be linked to the Wobble.

[cordell]

As of right now, as far as I know, only Spiders seem to be linked to the Wobble.

thanks

[Jsh]

As of right now, as far as I know, only Spiders seem to be linked to the Wobble.

I hatched out a normal from spider x normal who does show signs of wobble. She's not a train wreck by any means but it's visible. I personally didn't think anything but spider and spider combos would show the wobble, I was wrong.

[snakesRkewl]

I hatched out a normal from spider x normal who does show signs of wobble. She's not a train wreck by any means but it's visible..

Got any video proof?
*not calling you a liar*
I've yet to see anything besides a spider wobble.

[Jsh]

I currently don't, I noticed the other day that her head was tilted slightly. Since I had a kinked normal already I made sure she had no kinks on her neck. It was also the first feeding day and when she went to grab the mouse her head move up and down before taking it. I'm pretty sure its a slight wobble based on how she took the mouse but I could be wrong?

[Jsh]

I currently don't, I noticed the other day that her head was tilted slightly. Since I had a kinked normal already I made sure she had no kinks on her neck. It was also the first feeding day and when she went to grab the mouse her head move up and down before taking it. I'm pretty sure its a slight wobble based on how she took the mouse but I could be wrong?

I should also point out that their were no visable spiders in the clutch but he was the only male put with her this year. Also, a little more info on the clutch:
5 eggs, 2 died at around 2 weeks in, three normals hatched, one had kinks.

[cordell]

So am I correct in saying that there is a controversial debate in the breeding of morphs? I am not sure my stance on this, if 1 out of 10 wobble, a defect from breeding, that would not be so bad. If 4 out of 10 wobble then it might be a issue. Being it effects eating, I wonder if it effects the personality of the snake, does he know he is "lame"? By lame I mean he more than likely would not survive in the wild. OR am I just reaching here?

[anatess]

A wobble can be very pronounced (where the snake does a corkscrew with its head) or can be very slight (just a slight cute-dog tilt to the head when in a strike-mode s-coil).

My spider shows no other "unique" trait except for the slight swaying motion of his head right before he strikes. He is not the most accurate striker but he is a voracious eater, so he grew faster than my other snakes who goes on periodic fasts.

The wobble doesn't affect eating except for some who are not as accurate with the strike. Even the corkscrewy ones manage to catch their prey.

A corkscrewy wobble doesn't necessarily produce corkscrewy offspring just like a no-wobble can produce wobbly offspring... that is, the amount of wobble appears to be randomly generated.

Wobbles can appear on other morphs but it seems to be more predominant in spiders. I got this info from 8ballpythons.com but I can't link it anymore because the site has been taken down.

Nothing controversial about the breeding of wobbly spiders because a wobble doesn't necessarily mean bad.

[Freakie_frog]

So am I correct in saying that there is a controversial debate in the breeding of morphs? I am not sure my stance on this, if 1 out of 10 wobble, a defect from breeding, that would not be so bad. If 4 out of 10 wobble then it might be a issue. Being it effects eating, I wonder if it effects the personality of the snake, does he know he is "lame"? By lame I mean he more than likely would not survive in the wild. OR am I just reaching here?

When it comes to spiders 10 out of 10 wobble.. I've never seen a wobbly spider have trouble eating and I've seen some doozies.

I think you're reaching but it's not something that isn't brought up at least once a month.. Also snakes aren't self aware for one so no wobbly complex