Went to Repticon that was at the Kane County fairgrounds this weekend. It was pretty cool. They didn't do much advertising so it was kinda dead. It will be back in Jan so anyone who is close or wants to make the drive I'd suggest it. I picked up and animal plastics CB70 (4) rack for 250. I was going to build one but for that price I was sold. I checked online and that rack is 260 w/ belly heat but no tubs included. This rack takes the iris tubs and each tub is like 14 dollars so I saved $10 just on the rack itself then $56 on tubs and the $50 for shipping. That's $116 I saved! Totally worth it!