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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    If you have the proper lighting to give them that gives UVA and UVB as the sun would give them....then you don't want to use D3. In fact the reptile vet that I go to (highly respected and know internationally) prefers you use those bulbs as opposed to a D3 supplement. He states that it is way better for them.
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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    Quote Originally Posted by boyyoyo View Post
    I don't want D3 for the dish inside the enclosure. I plan to use one containing D3 for dusting the crickets, D3 is a fatsoluble vit, hence to much is toxic.
    In that case... good planning. I thought you were trying to cut out D3 altogether.
    Also I think that some of these toxicities are overstated, but that's another matter.

    Elizabeth, of course natural production would be best, but unless you have outdoor enclosures, I'm of the opinion that some supplementation should be given.
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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    The toxicities I'm reffering to are those from human research. It's farely common knowledge now that all fat soluble vits are toxic in high enough doses A,D,E, and K are all fat soluble. And make big problems for the liver and other organs. While I understand the anatomy of a human vs. an anphibeion are different what is toxic for one, is useually toxic for the other.

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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    Quote Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    If you have the proper lighting to give them that gives UVA and UVB as the sun would give them....then you don't want to use D3. In fact the reptile vet that I go to (highly respected and know internationally) prefers you use those bulbs as opposed to a D3 supplement. He states that it is way better for them.
    I would be careful using UVA/UVB lamps with leopard geckos. They are nocturnal and have thin skin. I'm sure light doses would be fine, but you really have to be careful with not over exposing them to it or using a lamp that was really powerful.

    D3 is indeed fat soluble but I am also in the boat that the toxicity has been overblown (in leopard geckos). I think she would be alright with D3 + calcium until you are able to obtain pure calcium. Are you able to order online? This would last you a while and is ultra fine. It's what I keep in my tubs.

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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    Quote Originally Posted by coldblooded View Post
    I would be careful using UVA/UVB lamps with leopard geckos. They are nocturnal and have thin skin. I'm sure light doses would be fine, but you really have to be careful with not over exposing them to it or using a lamp that was really powerful.

    D3 is indeed fat soluble but I am also in the boat that the toxicity has been overblown (in leopard geckos). I think she would be alright with D3 + calcium until you are able to obtain pure calcium. Are you able to order online? This would last you a while and is ultra fine. It's what I keep in my tubs.
    ahhh very good to know!! I do not have one hence I did not know that. Thank you!!
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    Re: TUMS as Calcium?

    I use Sticky Tongue Farms "miner-all" for my geckos, and I'm pleased with the results. They make a formula with no D3, for animals that get natural sunlight.

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