Breeding normals?

[dturner100]

Does it bug you when you hear of people breeding normals?
My personal though is, there are too many normals in the world, and we should try to limit getting more. Not saying we should put them down, but instead of norm x norm breeding, do norm to pastel.

Whats everyone's opinion?

I know all the colors, and pattern morphs are "pretty" but let's not forget that we are trying to propagate a dwindling species.

I've gotta say this is the "Pretty butterfly" syndrome. Breed the butterflies, and kill the moths. Why? The butterflies are prettier of course. Too many people think that every animal species was put here on earth to be our pets. Yes, ball pythons make great pets, but why would we get to decide there are too many normals.

[MarkS]

I know all the colors, and pattern morphs are "pretty" but let's not forget that we are trying to propagate a dwindling species.

I've gotta say this is the "Pretty butterfly" syndrome. Breed the butterflies, and kill the moths. Why? The butterflies are prettier of course. Too many people think that every animal species was put here on earth to be our pets. Yes, ball pythons make great pets, but why would we get to decide there are too many normals.

One thing I would like to point out is that Ball Pythons in their home range are NOT a dwindling species, they are actually an expanding species. Ball Pythons actually do best on land that has been disturbed as what happens in farming. As more land in Africa is put to agricultural use, the more the Ball Pythons range will expand.

[seeya205]

I'll agree to stop breeding normal ball pythons when the human race agrees to stop breeding idiots.

It's not the availablility or genetics of the snake that makes it turn up on craigslist.


dr del

Couldn't have said it better!

[TessadasExotics]

I'll agree to stop breeding normal ball pythons when the human race agrees to stop breeding idiots.

It's not the availablility or genetics of the snake that makes it turn up on craigslist.


dr del

I think every day on how some people just should no propagate!

[CamStatic]

I sometimes find normals even prettier than some morphs..

Normals are gorgeous, should never stop breeding them.

[dturner100]

I sometimes find normals even prettier than some morphs..

Normals are gorgeous, should never stop breeding them.

Exactly! Why are we breeding them if we don't love the snake they all came from.

Also, though I'm considered the "weird snake guy" so my opinion is bias but I definitely agree that we should stop breeding idiots. If only baby idiots came as color morphs we'd be able to discard them at a young age. Wonder how you spot idiot het markers?

[Freakie_frog]

Wonder how you spot idiot het markers?

I may state you can tell by their insurance record..

[Jason Bowden]

Just wanted to see what frog had to say.
Maybe we can check out the idiot's driving record.

[Jason Bowden]

I bred several wild caught native snakes when I was growing up. Are there too many native snakes? I know - different subject - I also didn't sell any of those snakes. All the babies I produced from my native snake breeding were set free with the exception of some speckled king snakes that I gave to a snake keeping friend of mine.

I see nothing wrong with breeding normals to normals. I do hope the hatchlings go to good homes. When I sell a ball python, I always include a care sheet. Sadly---the care sheets are not always followed.

Be aware that very young idiots may not have a driving record yet.

[bigballs]

i do not think the OP is saying "do not breed normals because they are worthless" but the sad truth is that normal ball pythons are disposable animals, like all inexpensive pets, and are commonly treated as such. whether we agree with this or not, im sure we've all experienced this attitude in some way and at some point or another.

obviously most of us here do not consider these animals disposable but we are not the majority and all disposables will continue to be mistreated as long as they are cheap and easily acquired.

it would be nice to see these animals less available to impulse buyers and hopefully by doing this we will see less mistreated disposables in need of rescue and a new home. unfortunately this is much easier said than done as simply to stop breeding normals is clearly not an option and agreeing on another option may be close to impossible.