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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    If I ever find a Democrat that actually stands for what I do, then okay, I'll vote for him/her. That has yet to ever be true. I'll also let the facts speak for themselves. A Republican was our only ally on HR669 and that is also the case with this bill.

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulihzack View Post
    Canada is starting to look better and better every time I see a USARK email.
    Here is the Canada immigration information.
    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp

    Now what would happen if Canada Immigration got a few thousand e-mails asking about immigrating because of the proposed ban of pythons. That just might make the international news on every channel.

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    By the way, I'm really not trying to be divisive here, just stating some facts that need to be paid attention to. I'm not exactly enamored with the Republican party either. As much as the Democratic party is not the party of JFK anymore, the Republican party is not the party of Reagan anymore either. I do agree that regardless of our political views, we do need to unite on this issue so hopefully I didn't ruffle feathers too much. I normally don't like debating politics on here.

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    well then stop voting for extremists if you guys dont like it.

    what we need is businesses in those states start creating a major stir on this.
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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    "Extremists" are not bound to Republicans or Democrats, Christians or Buddhists, African Americans or Angolo saxons....Extremists are found in every group and denomination. Extremists like evil are also a point of view , yo some degree. We must remember this as we fight this bill. We can say to people that it is wrong and evil to take our right to own reptiles, but in there views owning and selling reps might be as bad as selling meth or the ever sooo harmful "Marijuana" lol. The only way to fight this is with science and human compassion, which is impossible for America has sold both of those to fuel its greed. Our Gov is broken, once people see that than maybe we can rise up and change it but until then...Canada seems like the place I want to be....too bad I'm unemployed and lost my scholorships...all do to the economy..and stuck here.

    just my two cents.

    But on the real subject at hand ...will calling in, faxing ect. really do anything? If politicians don't care about science and human compassion will they really care about us? I think not...I think the only thing that will kill this bill is ironically its passing. Once people see how much money will be lost and how many Reptile owners are out there , they will have no choice but to fix it ( kind of like prohibition). So i say we call all these numbers and fight it all the way, however, we should prepare for the real fight, to keep buying and selling Reptiles after they have been banned. They will threatin us with prison yes, but many great men and women have served jail time to fight for the rights of the people.

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    Quote Originally Posted by nixer View Post
    well then stop voting for extremists if you guys dont like it.

    what we need is businesses in those states start creating a major stir on this.

    We need some celebrities to start making some Public Service Announcements or commercials for USARK on Animal Planet, just like HSUS does...
    "Cry, Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war..."

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    Good idea,

    Someone call that guy from flashforward and lost and see if he would show of his mojo on more chatshows.

    Anyone know what Slash and Alice Cooper are doing these days?

    Is Jake the snake still around?

    My celeb knowledge is, as you can see, somewhat out of date.


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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    That is NOT a bad idea at all, Del! There are celebrities who would hop on board with this cause for nothing, because they own snakes as well. Alice Cooper would definitely be on board, and Slash from Guns N Roses. We need to alert them personally that all this is going on.

    As for all the partisan arguing, give it up--both parties are trash. Democrats want to ban everything, and Republicans are a bunch of religious fanatics who want to turn the country into a theocracy. You CANNOT win. I usually side with the Democrats because they aren't trying to shove a Bible down my throat, and generally side with protecting the environment. But they ALL suck. The two party system created this mess we're living in. Blaming it on one party or the other is pointless.
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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    Kerry King from Slayer is another. Big carpet python fan. He was featured on a chat on Kingsnake a long time ago.

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    Re: Lattest from URARK - Bill Nelson Lied

    Made all my calls and emails again.

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