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    Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Does anyone know?

    All of the Black Eyed Leucistics I've seen have yellow spotting on them.

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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    They're probably all medium or low quality. The best BELs are pure white. Mind that they are often holdbacks or will be sold for high prices.

    If you want to see what the spots can do when pushed to the extreme check out the Super Sulfur thread.
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    The best BELs are pure white.
    Of course you know this is an opinion
    I personally like the spotted/colored ones better, but that too is an opinion
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Of course you know this is an opinion
    I personally like the spotted/colored ones better, but that too is an opinion
    Well okay, the ones that go for the most money and are generally the most desirable tend to be the pure white ones

    Personally I'm hoping my fire produces pure whites, but at the same time I would LOVE an extremely blotched BEL like the one super sulfur
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxylepy View Post
    Well okay, the ones that go for the most money and are generally the most desirable tend to be the pure white ones

    Personally I'm hoping my fire produces pure whites, but at the same time I would LOVE an extremely blotched BEL like the one super sulfur
    Agreed, I am loving my new fire male and hope to make pure whites and blotched, because they both have their own beauty for sure.
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    How do you produce all-white Black-Eyed Lucy's then?

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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    All the black eyed Lucy's I have seen have varying amounts of yellow on them. I have seen some pure white blue eyed Lucy's though.
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Codejunky View Post
    How do you produce all-white Black-Eyed Lucy's then?
    Luck of the draw and/or great genetics.

    Sulfurs tend to make more defined patches, while Fires tend to have the best chance of getting pure whites. I suppose if people took a few pure whites and kept breeding them, ultimately they could make a pure white genetic line, but the number of generations you would go through would be staggering.

    this one looks pure:

    http://www.constrictors.com/images/B...c/Lucy0930.jpg

    Have to see it in person to be sure, though
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Most of the Black Eyed Leucistics I've seen do have some yellow spotting. It's rare to have one that is completely white but they are out there.

    Think of them kind of like a yellow and white piebald. NO white pieds are extremely rare, but then again extreme white pieds are also extremely rare. Most of them fall somewhere in the middle. Yellow spotting on the Black Eyed Leucistics is kind of the same way.

    Personally I think that if you want a pure white snake with the least amount of color I would go with a Blue Eyed Leucistic. Personally I prefer MORE yellow spotting on the Black Eyed Leucistics as I think that is what makes them unique as a morph.
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    Re: Do all Black-Eyed Lucy's have some yellow spotting?

    Hi,

    There was someone posting on one of the british forums who produces a high percentage of pure white Black ELs who said he had achieved it through selective breeding.

    I will try and find the links tomorrow - it stuck in my mind as there was a heated exchange about it.


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