Will you be saying bye bye to your Ball Pythons?

[Vypyrz]

Rob, it is my understanding that Petsmart and Petco executives are working VERY closely with Pijac, if memory serves me correctly. WE may not think that they care, but they very much do.

Thanks for the info. It's good to know that the corporate backing is still there...


Rob

[steveboos]

Honestly, even if they did pass the bill after all the calling that you all and i have done, we aren't getting rid of our Pythons. I know for a fact that just because they create a bill against it, our passion will grow even more. Look back in history for proof of this. No bill will stop us from doing something that we love. They have been trying for so long to make bigger snakes illegal to buy and own, but we wont stop just because the man says we have to.

[cinderbird]

i called again today before 5 EST (to make sure i'd get a person on the phone) and several of the people i spoke to went "You're OPPOSING the python ban?" and i politely said Yes. Several told me they had received many calls about it, some acted like 2811 was a bill for feeding hungry children (HOW COULD YOU OPPOSE THIS?! attitude).

i hope what i did was enough.

[greghall]

Let's try to keep the political rhetoric off of this very important issue. If you'd like to discuss your feelings about the current state of our government, please feel free to do so by starting a thread in the Quarantine Room. If you do not have access, please contact myself or another admin (names in red) to gain access.

ROBIN THIS WOULD NOT A ISSUE IF IT WAS NOT FOR POLITICS & POLITIANS TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES ITS NOT RETERICK ITS THE TRUTH.IVE BEEN DOING MY PART & IM ALSO TIRED OF ALL THESE THREATS FOR LEGISLATORS TRYING TO TAKE MY BELOVED HOBBY FROM ME

[Bleepr]

3/16 of an inch is all the keeps your pinky from the caps lock key... Use it, please.

I wasn't able to make any calls today =(. It seems like this one is passing much more quickly then HR669...

[cinderbird]

when do we hear back about this anyway? thats the one piece of info i haven't found yet :/

[catawhat75]

I know Adam will be there tomorrow. He updated the HR669 blog today and is planning on updating tomorrow also. The hearing is at 12:30 EST so if you haven't called yet- MAKE THOSE CALLS IN THE MORNING! Post on facebook, twitter, craigslist- ANYWHERE. We need to make a BIG noise!!

http://nohr669.com/blog/

[lance]

I'm afraid that may not be the case anymore. It only takes ONE bill to get passed then the flood waters will be let lose. Once the nut jobs have their foot in the door they will not stop. It will not stop at just pythons. Next will be boas, then large colubrids, then large monitor lizards and so forth and so on.

Our opponents are getting smarter. They have deep pockets to fight their battles. They will not just go away.

Everyday I see poor HSUS commercials on the TV asking the general public to give $20.00 PER MONTH ($240.00 per year) to help sick and injured animals. That money is being used to pass these ridiculous bills people. Our enemies have an endless bank account. They play on the general public's emotions. We don't have a chance in hell to win unless we stick together and get fired up to fight these people.

true but there not going to kill the cash cow because of it just regulate it or deny it and continue cashing in the pet industry is too big to add restrictions as such to it but you never know what they will do The money the ASPCA and PETA have is small compared to trade and animal hobbyist revenue and ASPCA and PETA is a bunch of cry baby hippies no one takes serious they'll listen to people in the industry more because there all in the game of big business money.

lance

[Skiploder]

Was reading the small thread, which Jeff posted on KS and I just hate reading the rants that follow his post. I just don't understand why people complain about USArk. As if there was a big conspiracy behind them.

I just don't get it.


I'm sure these are the same people who do nothing to help stop fight these bills.

I read the same threads on Kingsnake.

I didn't see any rants - I saw some people asking important questions about the current standing of the bill.

I saw people asking for an honest simplification of the current standing of the bill and why some of the USARK announcements seemed to contradict one another.

All of those people are calling and doing their part. Not blindly joining the herd does not make one apathetic or a ranter.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1756868,1756894

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1757150,1757150

[Skiploder]

For what it's worth, I had the same question that some of the "Ranters" on Kingsnake had - namely what had changed since USARK announced that they had negotiated this bill to a level where they considered it a win?