Price drops

[Oxylepy]

Reputation is a big part of it. The people dropping their prices just to get things sold are actually helping other breeders in the future... Those of us just starting out. The only reason id buy a spider for $150.00 is if i personally knew the seller and knew for sure he/she was going thru some serious financial issues. Otherwise i wouldnt trust that breeder.

And you'd want to see the snake, as well as it's parents, right?

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

I paid 150 for my male spider. at a show. but still. I plan to sell my spiders for 150-200 each, 225 for females. Its mainly due to the amount of them being produced now. just like why pastels used to be 2500 dollars, and are now found for 200 or lower. same with pinstripes. they used to fetch a large lil penny.

Please dont sell them that low... You will only make the value of that morph as a whole drop substantially.. Damaging the business of other breeders. Keep to the prices that the GOOD, WELL KNOWN, REPUTABLE breeders sell for.. If your animals are healthy, well started. There is no reason to sell so low..

[BabysMomma]

Unfortunately price does have something to do with it. It's a big problem in the iguana market, people pick them up from the pet store for 14.99 and then don't bother to take proper care of it because hey, it was cheap, who cares if it dies?

With normals going for 20 bucks, we're going to see a lot more people buying snakes who are unprepared for the care they require. It's already happening because as someone said earlier, normals are seen as somehow 'lesser' than more exotic morphs, and people don't care who they sell them to. This breaks my heart, because my normal may not have COST me very much, but his WORTH is more than any other snake in the world, to me.

[Oxylepy]

Please dont sell them that low... You will only make the value of that morph as a whole drop substantially.. Damaging the business of other breeders. Keep to the prices that the GOOD, WELL KNOWN, REPUTABLE breeders sell for.. If your animals are healthy, well started. There is no reason to sell so low..

This depends when he sells them, if it's next year the prices are probably going to be that low anyway :/

[littleindiangirl]

Big time breeders do not, as a rule, have better quality. They have more animals, but more animals does not equate to "higher quality".

Next time you are at a big show (Daytona, NARBC), keep a tally on those few 'big time' breeders, and the mid level to smaller breeders. Hands down, I have always seen the best from the midlevels to small. Maybe it's because they are more hands on and keep only the finest select animals.

Regardless of the numbers someone keeps, their quality speaks in the animals they produce and sell. Not the quantity that they sell.

[Oxylepy]

With normals going for 20 bucks, we're going to see a lot more people buying snakes who are unprepared for the care they require. It's already happening because as someone said earlier, normals are seen as somehow 'lesser' than more exotic morphs, and people don't care who they sell them to. This breaks my heart, because my normal may not have COST me very much, but his WORTH is more than any other snake in the world, to me.

My normal was my favorite, then my fire became my favorite since she cost so much, then she turned out to be a finicky eater (only if the rodent happens to be moving really fast or is alive, and in either case only if she's in the mood) then my normal became my favorite again, but he's been pretty bite-y lately so it's all about my pastel.

[rabernet]

This breaks my heart, because my normal may not have COST me very much, but his WORTH is more than any other snake in the world, to me.

Completely agree with you. My normal males that I produce may not have much monetary value, if any - but I'm going to find them the very best homes that I can. I love to help out a new keeper by putting a nice, well started male in their home, but I also work with them for weeks before they get them to ensure that they are prepared with a proper set-up. Being a smaller breeder, I have the luxury of holding onto them until I can find the right homes for them.

[Oxylepy]

Completely agree with you. My normal males that I produce may not have much monetary value, if any - but I'm going to find them the very best homes that I can. I love to help out a new keeper by putting a nice, well started male in their home, but I also work with them for weeks before they get them to ensure that they are prepared with a proper set-up. Being a smaller breeder, I have the luxury of holding onto them until I can find the right homes for them.

I'd rather give normals away to people I know than sell them to people I don't. But I know a lot of people.

[waltah!]

I will keep babies as an alternative to selling them off for nothing. I sold a normal male hatchling yesterday for $40. I know they are like $15 at shows, but they are worth more than that to me. Rather than sell my female Pastel hatchlings for $99 like I've seen I will raise them up and make combos later or sell them for a higher price as adults.
I would rather see more breeders show pride in their animals and their worth. High quality has a higher value and I would hate to see them all lumped together with the not so great examples. A few lowball ads on KS or Fauna is all it takes for people to start dropping prices a little at a time.

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

And you'd want to see the snake, as well as it's parents, right?

Exactly. And the housing conditions in which its being kept... I have alot of new snakes coming very soon and even tho im sure they are all healthy and well cared for, they will all be fecal tested and blood tested as well as being kept seperate from my others. Ive heard horror stories from my exotics vet about small time breeders and snake sickness...

People have no idea how easy it is to lose your entire collection due to one simple sickness that can go un noticed until its been passed to every single snake. There are multiple bacteria, parasites, and viruses that can be in these snakes and easily passed to another one..