Roe progression thread!

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Originally Posted by GpBp

No one ate. I even took Roes mouse and got water up to 100° and stuck it in there for 30secs. Nothing! In still going to leave all food in overnight though. Thank you


And, do you use one tub for all rodents, or one each? Ill go by Wal-Mart this weekend and get something.

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One tub fits about 3 medium rats (floating on top in one layer). So you can do more than one rodent for sure!

I think the biggest issue with your current defrosting method is the potential to cook the rodent, not the lack of heat.

Also, if they refuse once, I wouldn’t offer again. Leaving it for a while is ok. However if you keep offering and they are not interested you are just adding stress for them.

Seriously. Calm down, deep breaths, and leave everyone alone until next feeding day.

Think like a snake. Your stress is spilling over to them. Give yourself and them a break.

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Originally Posted by GpBp

I meant she hadnt refused a meal yet :)
It was scary! I really hope she eats tonight!!


Wow! 4-6weeks as adults! I think ill keep feeding once a week now (my mom thinks ill starve her lol!). But once she hits a year ill go to once every two weeks- once every 3 :) Thank you!

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That's good!

Could you give us the exact numbers on her temps and humidity? Cool end, hot end, and hot spot. What are you using to measure these, are they digital or analog? Are you sure they're accurate? If she isn't eating, she may either feel full, or her husbandry is off somewhere. The feeding pictures I saw, the meals were a lot larger than I normally feed my boas, and you're feeding weekly, so that's why I think she may be full. Not all boas will eat themselves into a heart attack. lol

Edit to add: hot side and cool side should be measured with thermometers. Hot spot is the area directly above a UTH or directly below a CHE, RHP, or lamp, and can only be measured with a temp gun. You also want to be sure you're using thermostats on all of your heating elements, or they could cook your reptiles. For UTHs/heat tape, you want the thermostat probe outside the enclosure in between the pad/tape and the bottom of the enclosure, for ambient heaters you want them directly under the heater as close to the floor as you can get without the snakes being able to touch it.

What I normally do to thaw my rodents out if I don't have a big bowl to use is to thaw them out in the sink. Then it's an easy matter to clean and sanitize.

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Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa

That's good!

Could you give us the exact numbers on her temps and humidity? Cool end, hot end, and hot spot. What are you using to measure these, are they digital or analog? Are you sure they're accurate? If she isn't eating, she may either feel full, or her husbandry is off somewhere. The feeding pictures I saw, the meals were a lot larger than I normally feed my boas, and you're feeding weekly, so that's why I think she may be full. Not all boas will eat themselves into a heart attack. lol

Edit to add: hot side and cool side should be measured with thermometers. Hot spot is the area directly above a UTH or directly below a CHE, RHP, or lamp, and can only be measured with a temp gun. You also want to be sure you're using thermostats on all of your heating elements, or they could cook your reptiles. For UTHs/heat tape, you want the thermostat probe outside the enclosure in between the pad/tape and the bottom of the enclosure, for ambient heaters you want them directly under the heater as close to the floor as you can get without the snakes being able to touch it.

What I normally do to thaw my rodents out if I don't have a big bowl to use is to thaw them out in the sink. Then it's an easy matter to clean and sanitize.

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Good points CloudtheBoa. I don't remember if all this has been addressed in previous threads. Quite a few new BCI owners here and I have trouble keeping up :(.

I think the concern is that Roe is only 75G right now, if I recall.

However, feeding smaller meals can't hurt.

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Originally Posted by dakski

Good points CloudtheBoa. I don't remember if all this has been addressed in previous threads. Quite a few new BCI owners here and I have trouble keeping up :(.

I think the concern is that Roe is only 75G right now, if I recall.

However, feeding smaller meals can't hurt.

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I don't believe her weight to be an issue. A weight gain of 14 grams in a single month is decent amount of weight gain, my boas gain on average 6-12 grams a month while they're smaller. Even if she's still at 75 grams now that it's been about another month, she is still a good weight for her size imo. My sunglow was 1 month old and 80 grams when I got her, my anery motley was 4 months old and 82 grams when I got him. Those two and OP's boas seem about the same size (OP's may be a bit smaller), and eating a mouse hopper every 7 days is more than plenty of food. I see no concern for her weight, based off of her age and feeding schedule

It seems the boa is missing every other meal, which is another reason why I'm suspecting she's full. She'll skip one week, but then eat the following, and my boa Cloud did something similar when I was overfeeding him. The longer I went overfeeding him, the more meals he'd skip and longer between feeds he'd go. He went from eating weekly, to skipping a meal and eating 2 weeks later, then skipping 2 meals to eat 3 weeks later, and then 3 meals to eat 4 weeks later, etc. until I reduced his prey size again. I no longer feed any of my boas weekly, unless for health concerns.

the photos in post 6 and this latest one that she didn't eat... maybe it's the angle but those mice look a bit too big for the boa to me

I was going to say something after post 6 but figured maybe it was just the angle.
But with this last photo and the fact she refused. Might be the issue.
The mouse should not be thicker than the widest part of the snake.

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Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa

That's good!

Could you give us the exact numbers on her temps and humidity? Cool end, hot end, and hot spot. What are you using to measure these, are they digital or analog? Are you sure they're accurate? If she isn't eating, she may either feel full, or her husbandry is off somewhere. The feeding pictures I saw, the meals were a lot larger than I normally feed my boas, and you're feeding weekly, so that's why I think she may be full. Not all boas will eat themselves into a heart attack. lol

Edit to add: hot side and cool side should be measured with thermometers. Hot spot is the area directly above a UTH or directly below a CHE, RHP, or lamp, and can only be measured with a temp gun. You also want to be sure you're using thermostats on all of your heating elements, or they could cook your reptiles. For UTHs/heat tape, you want the thermostat probe outside the enclosure in between the pad/tape and the bottom of the enclosure, for ambient heaters you want them directly under the heater as close to the floor as you can get without the snakes being able to touch it.

What I normally do to thaw my rodents out if I don't have a big bowl to use is to thaw them out in the sink. Then it's an easy matter to clean and sanitize.

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I'm so sorry! I left a couple hours ago and wont be hack home until 6:00. Ill get the temps and humidity when I get home. I use a temp gun, and cor humidity I use a zoo med hydrometer. BUT! Do you want some good news?








ROE ATE!!! I'm so happy! Her mouse wasn't in her tank this morning :)

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

the photos in post 6 and this latest one that she didn't eat... maybe it's the angle but those mice look a bit too big for the boa to me

I was going to say something after post 6 but figured maybe it was just the angle.
But with this last photo and the fact she refused. Might be the issue.
The mouse should not be thicker than the widest part of the snake.

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Huh, ok. She's eating a fuzzy... Should I try pinkies..?

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Originally Posted by GpBp

Huh, ok. She's eating a fuzzy... Should I try pinkies..?

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No, pinkies have almost no nutritional value. It's probably just the pic but that looks like a large rat

that is not a fuzzy mouse, looks like a small adult?

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

that is not a fuzzy mouse, looks like a small adult?

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I thought the same but look at the pill bottle size. I don't think you could fit a small adult in that small of a bottle

Edit: maybe a hopper?