The Blue-Eyed Leucistic Ball Python

Unless noted pictures from http://www.newenglandreptile.com

This is a Blue-Eyed Leucistic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...r/bel_main.jpg

It seems once a week I see a question somewhere, asking what makes a BEL (Blue-Eyed Leucistic) so mayb this will cut down on this repeated question.

BEL are usually made from a Heterozygous Morph x Heterozygous Morph breeding or you'd already have a BEL or Super phantom

BEL is the homozygous (super) form of multiple morphs, and yes they can be interchanged. You don't need a Mojave x Mojave, you can do Mojave x Lesser, Phantom x Russo Het, or any 2 morphs for that matter (only exception phantom x phantom, they will not make a BEL but a super phantom)

here are the morphs

Mojave

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ojave_main.jpg

a mojave x mojave breeding usually produces what i'd call a dirty BEL, they sometimes have a pattern, the head usually has markings on it, the white isn't usually a stunning white, but still a white snake with blue eyes, doing a lesser x mojave or anything else x mojave usually cleans the snake up.

Lesser Platinum

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...esser_main.jpg

I was told a lesser x lesser breeding will produce the most stunning BEL you can get, but thats always going to be a debate.

Butter

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...utter_main.jpg

Similar looking to the lesser, im told butters keep more of a gold color

Russo Het Leucistic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...russo_main.jpg

Doesn't look like the others at all does it? but also a Co-Dom morph that makes BEL and also does when crossed with the other morphs.

Phantom

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...phant_main.jpg

These are an odd ball in the BEL club because a Phantom x Anything above will produce BEL, but a Phantom x Phantom breeding will produce a Super Phantom.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...perphantom.jpg
i got this picture off a forum, im pretty sure Ralph Davis Reptiles owns the picture

If you want me to add anything let me know, but this should answer the same questions I keep seeing over and over and over.

nice info!

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

BEL is the homozygous (super) form of multiple morphs, and yes they can be interchanged. You don't need a Mojave x Mojave, you can do Mojave x Lesser, Phantom x Russo Het, or any 2 morphs for that matter (only exception phantom x phantom, they will not make a BEL but a super phantom)

Mojave

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ojave_main.jpg

Phantom

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...phant_main.jpg

If you want me to add anything let me know, but this should answer the same questions I keep seeing over and over and over.

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Pretty good explanation, HOWEVER I'm pretty sure that a Phantom X Mojave will NOT produce a white snake. I think that it will produce a snake similar to the Mystic potion ball that Tony McCain produced which was his mystic crossed with a mojave (I think most people now agree that the mystic is another line of phantom)

Here is a link to a thread with pics of mystics in it.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...=Mystic+potion

Sorry, I couldn't find a pic of a mystic potion but it looks very similar to a super phantom.,

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Sorry, I couldn't find a pic of a mystic potion but it looks very similar to a super phantom.,

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Here is a Mystic Potion pic.
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/photo.php?id=380774

Super Phantom and the Lesser Platinum are my favorites that you showed. All of them are beautiful!

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Pretty good explanation, HOWEVER I'm pretty sure that a Phantom X Mojave will NOT produce a white snake. I think that it will produce a snake similar to the Mystic potion ball that Tony McCain produced which was his mystic crossed with a mojave (I think most people now agree that the mystic is another line of phantom)

Here is a link to a thread with pics of mystics in it.
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...=Mystic+potion

Sorry, I couldn't find a pic of a mystic potion but it looks very similar to a super phantom.,

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could someone vouch for this? ive always been told it made a BEL with all crosses

and also im in violation in terms because i posted pics without written permission, i thought giving credit was good enough, i apologize, and they said i was allowed to post links to the pictures which i would do but i can't seem to edit my post... help anyone?

You may use the pics.

K~

would a super phantom x any of the others produce a BEL too?

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

could someone vouch for this? ive always been told it made a BEL with all crosses

and also im in violation in terms because i posted pics without written permission, i thought giving credit was good enough, i apologize, and they said i was allowed to post links to the pictures which i would do but i can't seem to edit my post... help anyone?

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I don't think that Phantom X Mojave has been done yet. At least it hasn't been made public if it has. It IS known that a Mystic X Mojave will NOT produce a white snake, so I guess it all depends on whether or not you think a Mystic and a Phantom are the same thing.

I was showing my girlfriend this thread cause she loves BELs and she asked me a question that I couldn't answer.

What would a BEL x BEL produce?