White-lipped python

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

I like his name too. He's stunning. I almost named my scrub Hyde but went with Kluass :). I wouldn't change anything if it's only been a couple of weeks since he's eaten. That's basically 1 or 2 refusals. If he gets to 3 months without eating then I'd try a live feeder or different prey type. You're going to want him on rats at some point soon, and he was eating them before, so why go through the fight twice? He'll eat eventually. They ALWAYS do. I'll admit that I have given stubborn feeders a prey type they prefer over rats. My Bredli, who normally eats medium rats, won't touch them after his winter fast which usually lasts 2-3 months. I'll offer him a jumbo mouse and he'll snap it right up. I'll keep offering him small or medium rats biweekly. If he refuses twice I'll give him a jumbo mouse. I'll offer him rats again for 2-3 feedings, if he refuses 3 times I'll give him another mouse. After that I only offer rats for the next two months. He usually gets with the program during this time. If he doesn't then he can get a jumbo mouse every 2-3 months. It's his choice. My motto is, the hunger ALWAYS wins. All my other snakes eat anything I throw at them. I guess there's always one. Hang in there.

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Speaking of your Scrub and Bredli... we are getting picture this weekend, right? :D

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Originally Posted by Reptile$ 4 Life

Speaking of your Scrub and Bredli... we are getting picture this weekend, right? :D

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LOL, it's funny that you should mention that. Yesterday morning I decided to take Klauss the Scrub out of his enclosure and let him stretch out on the 4x2x6 pvc jungle gym I have for the snakes that like to climb. This was a first in a couple of ways. It was the 1st time I've removed him from his cage without gloves. I always use a hook and then remove the gloves once he calms down. It was also the 1st time I've allowed him to climb to the top of the jungle gym which is right at eye level. Getting a scrub, or carpet, off of any perch can be quite a challenge. I thought it was going great until he just opened up and musked EVERYWHERE!! He never attempted to strike as I wrestled him off, and he wasn't hard to put back in his cage, which was great. I used the tshirt I was wearing to clean off the pvc and floor, threw it in the trash, and tossed my shorts and socks in the wash. Needless to say he won't be playing on the jungle gym anytime soon. He may still make this weekend's photo shoot if the weather is nice. :)

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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy

I like his name too. He's stunning. I almost named my scrub Hyde but went with Kluass :). I wouldn't change anything if it's only been a couple of weeks since he's eaten. That's basically 1 or 2 refusals. If he gets to 3 months without eating then I'd try a live feeder or different prey type. You're going to want him on rats at some point soon, and he was eating them before, so why go through the fight twice? He'll eat eventually. They ALWAYS do. I'll admit that I have given stubborn feeders a prey type they prefer over rats. My Bredli, who normally eats medium rats, won't touch them after his winter fast which usually lasts 2-3 months. I'll offer him a jumbo mouse and he'll snap it right up. I'll keep offering him small or medium rats biweekly. If he refuses twice I'll give him a jumbo mouse. I'll offer him rats again for 2-3 feedings, if he refuses 3 times I'll give him another mouse. After that I only offer rats for the next two months. He usually gets with the program during this time. If he doesn't then he can get a jumbo mouse every 2-3 months. It's his choice. My motto is, the hunger ALWAYS wins. All my other snakes eat anything I throw at them. I guess there's always one. Hang in there.

Edit: Or you can feed him 5 jumbo mice every 10-14 days.

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You're probably right, but there is something very relieving about getting a new snake to eat, and if it takes a bird, I wouldn't be opposed.

Had a successful (but brief) handling session today, and I'm happy to say it was a complete contrast to our last one. No biting, no thrashing, no musking. He was skittish/fearful coming out with the hook, but no real defensive displays. [emoji3060]

I do think he's getting ready to go into shed, but I may be wrong. I'm just happy to handle my snake- and finally get some better pictureshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8b3341e879.jpg

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Any update ...?

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Originally Posted by Phillydubs

Any update ...?

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Still hasn't eaten for me.

I was going to offer tonight, but he definitely looks like he's going into shed...was definitely not in the mood to deal with me when I was checking his humidity and temps.

Last week I offered a f/t, 1 day old chick. Waited until around 9pm, as usual. Warmed up with hair dryer (in the same room), temp gun to confirm temp, brained it, offered it to him as he hid inside his hide. I offer the food from an angle so that he can't see me, as the hide is facing the wall. I moved it around directly outside the hide entrance, and he struck it (defensively?). Warmed it again and did the same routine, and nothing. Left it in the spot overnight, nothing.

Temps are good, humidity is at around 85% right now.

When I'm warming the feeders up, he definitely doesn't beg or show interest like my other snakes do. But they take food without any need for coercion. I just don't want to stress him out if his reactions are purely defensive, which they seem to be. Maybe it's my approach, or because he was getting ready to go into shed.

I do wonder if he might need a live rat fuzzy (or the like) to get him kick-started. He's still young, so I do worry about him not eating. Haven't had to offer live before, but I'll do it if it means he'll eat. But, maybe he'll have an appetite after he sheds. I guess we'll see.

(Deleted the picture because I scrolled back and saw I had already posted it. [emoji25])


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I wouldn't jump to live. If he's going into shed, that'll definitely be a cause for not eating. I'd say leave him be, wait until he sheds, and try again.

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Originally Posted by wnateg

I wouldn't jump to live. If he's going into shed, that'll definitely be a cause for not eating. I'd say leave him be, wait until he sheds, and try again.

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I agree with wnateg. After a shed my bp attacks his rat like he's never eaten in his life, hopefully it's the same for Jekyll.

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Originally Posted by Reptile$ 4 Life

I agree with wnateg. After a shed my bp attacks his rat like he's never eaten in his life, hopefully it's the same for Jekyll.

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Thank you both. I get this way with each of my snakes until they eat for me for the first time. Never had one go this long, or show zero interest in eating. New-snake jitters. [emoji23]

I'm hoping this is why he isn't eating. All my others become ravenous beasts after they shed. Hopefully he follows suit.

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I snuck a peek. Humidity is solid, so I hope he doesn't have any difficulties. He's been in hiding the past couple of nights, and pushed the substrate out of the hide like that himself.

I'm excited to see him in his new skin.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0a8ca1a1cf.jpg

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