Pastel Clown Ball Python or not?

Hello,

I recently bought a female Pastel Clown Ball Python from a reputable seller. It is supposed to be a Pastel Clown, but even from the pictures he sent me before buying, I felt that it had no Pastel it. I told the seller that the head and eyes didn't look like a Pastel's, bu he insisted that it was 100% a Pastel Clown. I took some pictures after receiving the animal yesterday. Can you please give me some help here:

Thank you in advance.

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Feathers if I know but WOW gorgeous noodle congratulations 😊 clown is a breathtaking morph 😍

Lovely snake!

I'm not qualified to answer either, but after having looked at a lot of examples of both on google id be questioning it too. Some pastels do have a lot more blushing than others it seems.

I'm not seeing a Pastel Clown BUT I am not thinking that is just a Clown either.....

Morphs are definitely not my strong suit, but don't pastels generally have green eyes?

The head stamp is completely different than any pastel clown I’ve ever seen not to mention the color of the whole snake doesn’t look pastel to me.

The thing is, if you saw it and still decided to buy it as what it was listed as, then there is not much you can do about it. The breeder may have made a mistake but that happens with identifying morphs sometimes, so you should really only purchase if the animal looks how you think it should, there really is no guarantee that ID is going to be correct and it gets harder the more combinations that are possible. I would trust some breeders more over others but I’m sure even the best have made some mistakes.

Now this is completely different than buying an animal that is sold as a 100% het because that is not a judgment, that is a known fact so if a breeder were to sell an animal that was not a het but guaranteed that it was, that is lying and they would lose all credibility and should be held responsible for giving you your money back.

i'm not sure about the Pastel; the eyes would be green and her head stamp does not match other Pastel Clowns. but there's definitely more than just Clown in her.

Do you know what the pairing was that produced this animal?

The blushing on that clown is nice but the head pattern (different clowns have very distinct head patter) and coloration are wrong for a Pastel Clown (not sure are a reputable breeder would miss that but I guess some do :rolleyes:)

Here are some pastel clown I produced for reference, see the head pattern

http://i67.tinypic.com/rtzyf5.jpg

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Originally Posted by C.Marie

Feathers if I know but WOW gorgeous noodle congratulations 😊 clown is a breathtaking morph 😍

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Thank you!