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  • 07-10-2008, 10:18 AM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Ouch... 28$? Mmm, I'm sorry Mike but my way is cheaper.... Those zipties are too expensive. I can make a hopper pretty quickly and easily without the metal zipties. Just takes some practice and it's smooth sailing.

    I don't know if anyone mentioned, but you can use c-rings as well in place of the metal zipties.

    We used them to put together one of our rat cages. Should be over by the hardware cloth area in a farm store. They use them for the hardware cloth to make rabbit cages and such. A lot cheaper, and in my opinion easier than zipties.
  • 07-10-2008, 10:56 AM
    Dave763
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    "I'm sorry Mike but my way is cheaper.... Those zipties are too expensive. I can make a hopper pretty quickly and easily without the metal zipties. Just takes some practice and it's smooth sailing."

    Yeah metal zip ties killed it for me. Can you post pics of the way you do it(build hoppers lol) and the c rings please.
  • 07-10-2008, 11:01 AM
    cassandra
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    What are C rings?

    We based our design on Peter's - thanks Peter!
    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/rodents2.jpg

    Sewed the edges and whole thing to the lid top with thin bailing wire:
    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/rodents4.jpg
  • 07-10-2008, 11:28 AM
    Dave763
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    I'm expecting the small holes where the water bottles are, wont stay small forever.
    Rats have a way of finding any breach like that, then it wont be long.
    Let me know how those tubs hold up.

    I like the way you can load the food hopper from the top.

    I need to build a rack like Ralph Davis makes. The food hopper is on top.Looks like a couple hundred bucks though.
  • 07-10-2008, 11:44 AM
    cassandra
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave763 View Post
    I'm expecting the small holes where the water bottles are, wont stay small forever.
    Rats have a way of finding any breach like that, then it wont be long.
    Let me know how those tubs hold up.

    Had them for...5 months now? and they haven't touched the water bottle holes. These Rubbermaid tubs have molded feet on them and in a few of the tubs, they've nibbled on the molding of the feet, but not enough to escape.
  • 07-10-2008, 12:00 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave763 View Post
    Quote:

    "I'm sorry Mike but my way is cheaper.... Those zipties are too expensive. I can make a hopper pretty quickly and easily without the metal zipties. Just takes some practice and it's smooth sailing."
    Yeah metal zip ties killed it for me. Can you post pics of the way you do it(build hoppers lol) and the c rings please.

    Well, I don't use anything but hardware cloth and a needle nose plier when I make my hoppers, but I do know that the c-rings can be used for them, since they are made for hardware cloth.

    This is my way to make a hopper, takes me about ten minutes start to finish.
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=66110

    But here is a link picture of the c-rings (quick clips) in question
    http://www.martinscages.com/images/full/SUP-104.jpg

    And the pliers for them
    http://www.martinscages.com/images/full/SUP-106.jpg


    Sooo worth picking up if you have a bunch of hoppers to make. :P
  • 07-10-2008, 01:38 PM
    Peter Williams
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassandra View Post
    What are C rings?

    We based our design on Peter's - thanks Peter!
    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/rodents2.jpg

    Sewed the edges and whole thing to the lid top with thin bailing wire:
    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/rodents4.jpg

    wow thats looks great! glad I could help!
  • 07-10-2008, 03:49 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    thanks little... I still like my design better... seems like it will hold up longer then just holding everything together with bent hardware cloth (I have buit them your way too)... But I am sure you will insist that yours will last forever...

    Why do you make them so big??? how many weeks of food is that?

    Anyways, I would venture to say that my design can be assembled faster then yours. To bad we can't have a race!!!

    Mike
  • 07-10-2008, 07:28 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcavana View Post
    thanks little... I still like my design better... seems like it will hold up longer then just holding everything together with bent hardware cloth (I have buit them your way too)... But I am sure you will insist that yours will last forever...

    Why do you make them so big??? how many weeks of food is that?

    Anyways, I would venture to say that my design can be assembled faster then yours. To bad we can't have a race!!!

    Mike

    LOL, your on. I can make them pretty quick ;)

    I can say they have held up very well.

    I make them big, because big rats eat big foods. :D

    Anywho.. correction on my part, C-rings are hogrings (still useable for caging)... J clips are what I have pictured, and they are the BOMB!
  • 07-10-2008, 08:54 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: ASF tank lab block hopper instructions with detailed pics!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave763 View Post
    I'm expecting the small holes where the water bottles are, wont stay small forever.
    Rats have a way of finding any breach like that, then it wont be long.
    Let me know how those tubs hold up.

    It's pretty rare of any of our tubs to get chewed around the water bottle spigot. The trick is to melt the hole just big enough for the spigot to go through and not a bit bigger. If it's fit tight like that they don't seem to bother with it at all (at least my rats don't).
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