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  • 02-09-2019, 04:19 PM
    MR Snakes
    I agree with Brian. Get the gubmint out of the reptile business!
  • 02-09-2019, 04:22 PM
    MasonC2K
    My short thought on this: As he says, it should be up to the breeder and the industry to police itself.

    Long thoughts: I have a Spider. When I bred I had no problem breeding it. As long as it's taken care of properly they is no harm. How many dog and cat breeds have inherent genetic issues? Take the American Bulldog, A female physically cannot give birth. All births are by C-section. It's not stopping people from breeding or buying them.

    Great Danes have super short lifespans for a dog and usually have joint problems.

    I could go on and on.

    Point is, this could become a government thing. And it shouldn't.
  • 02-09-2019, 04:30 PM
    Lord Sorril
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    Old News--policy started by the International Herpetological Society as of 2018 - No impact to the hobby: Anyone who wants a Spider morph in the UK can still get one legally.

    Website: http://www.ihs-web.org.uk/ihs-news.p...mnid=24&page=3

    I don't take any advice from Brian B.
  • 02-09-2019, 05:49 PM
    Godzilla78
    I think breeding "defective" DNA dogs is just as bad or worse. I wouldn't support that either.
    However, my political views are libertarian, so I agree that the government should stay out of it, and people make their own choices.
  • 02-09-2019, 06:09 PM
    Jellybeans
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    I so agree
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Sorry but it really doesn't ruin my day (while I know it's a "slippery slope") and Brian really needs to drink a LOT LESS COFFEE. :taz: Just sayin'...

    I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that thinks it's lousy to breed animals with known neurological impairment.

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  • 02-09-2019, 06:11 PM
    Jellybeans
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    Brian doesn't drink coffee or drink FYI lol.

    I agree with brian that it should be up to the breeders. Most spiders are totally ok and live fine. Would I breed them..no.

    Yeah but then you have those breeders that don't really have very many morals just in it to make money and don't care about the welfare of the snake

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  • 02-09-2019, 06:16 PM
    MarkL1561
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
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    Originally Posted by Jellybeans View Post
    Yeah but then you have those breeders that don't really have very many morals just in it to make money and don't care about the welfare of the snake

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    Yeah but then people become aware of this and don’t purchase from said breeder potentially putting them out of business. The problem solves itself in a way.


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  • 02-09-2019, 06:28 PM
    Jellybeans
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkL1561 View Post
    Yeah but then people become aware of this and don’t purchase from said breeder potentially putting them out of business. The problem solves itself in a way.


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    But what happens to the snakes that aren't bought?

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  • 02-09-2019, 06:55 PM
    MarkL1561
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jellybeans View Post
    But what happens to the snakes that aren't bought?

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    What happens to dogs that aren’t bought? What about kids that aren’t adopted? Sadly the world isn’t all sunshine and butterflies. There are always going to be animals that need homes unfortunately. Putting a ban on an animal isn’t going to solve this unless everything is banned. If this problem troubles you I recommend adopting animals instead of purchasing from a breeder.


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  • 02-09-2019, 06:59 PM
    Jellybeans
    Re: So the UK Really Banned Spider Balls
    I have always adopted and fostered and found.
    If they would have put a ban on breeding certain breeds of dogs there wouldn't be so many of that breed in the shelters now.
    But now it's too late.
    I did however buy my ball python because you don't readily find them in shelters in Texas, FORTUNATELY.
    People have the choice if they want to reproduce ; animals don't therefore I hold people responsible for having children that they don't need or don't want and for breeding animals that they don't need or don't want
    I'm pretty hardcore when it comes to animals I've seen some terrible terrible things.

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