Cursed?

BTW, it seems we often have this discussion here, about the best way to thaw rodents. The thing to remember is how much FASTER these whole rats (or any prey) can
spoil because it's the whole animal...remember that the GI tract is intact & full of bacteria...which get very happy & come to life* when they're warmed up. (*freezing
doesn't kill them, just keeps them from growing) So thawing rodents is not like leaving a steak out on the counter to thaw for a human dinner, because first, it's not the
whole animal, but second, we're not going to eat it raw (I'm assuming) & any bacteria gets killed off when it's cooked. My suggestions for thawing snake food actually
parallels what is suggested for thawing whole turkeys, for example, that people eat: that is, thaw either in cold water (& change it a few times as needed) or thaw in the
'fridge (but that takes much longer).

No, you're not cursed...this is just life, re-learning how to live with snakes! :rofl:Hope they get going for you soon. :gj:

Last question...for those in this situation...how often do you offer food? Cost isn't the most important factor, but I also feel bad wasting these guys away, though I am sure they are being consumed. I don't want to over-offer and make these snakes think food is always there, but I sure don't want to neglect them. Thanks again for the input.

Since they're well established adults I wouldn't offer any more often than every 3-4 weeks. I'm brand new to Morelia, but with my other snakes sometimes I just kinda "wait them out". By that I mean I don't offer until they start exhibiting some hunting behavior.
For example, with my adult BPs, when they take a break I won't offer again until I see their heads poking out of their hides on consecutive nights. If I see that two or three nights in a row I will offer. So far I've had no refusals that way.

Again, I'm brand new to Morelia, but experienced with other species and this is what has worked for me personally as well as my animals.

Good luck! Please keep us posted.
And we love pictures, so don't be afraid to share. :)

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...e0aa1dae_m.jpg

So apparently I'm retarded. These are the current setups, only i have added in one really big piece of grapewood to the top enclosure, which the dude can bask right under the RHP. That is his hot spot every day when he comes out. I'm trying to shape the piece I have not so it fits in the bottom enclosure. More photos to follow.

Retarded as in never being able to figure out how to post photos before...

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Retarded as in never being able to figure out how to post photos before...

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People ask all the time...don't beat yourself up. (-we can do it for you, & SO much better! :rofl:)

Here are the last photos I have to share tonight. They're from around Christmas time. The one that is my profile pic is pretty old, first one I got and an early enclosure design. Enclosures not have no substrate on bottom, just in the tubs. Enjoy...will post any more I have in the future.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...01035167_m.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...ec60eee2_m.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...22e27378_m.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...572a5ba8_m.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...75733143_m.jpg

Last one is the first cage design before putting the variegata in from its first temporary bin setup.

Beautiful enclosures! :gj:

I have 5 Carpets that are aged 6-10 years old. Since December they may skip their monthly meals. One has skipped only once, 3 have skipped two meals in a row, and one has skipped 3 meals in a row.

As you can see, there are no hard, fast rules, even between males and females. They each have their own schedules.

Nice looking snakes and cool enclosures. Just keep offering food every 2-4 weeks until they're eating consistently again. I'd only thaw one prey item each time and see if either snake eats it. You can also try a different prey type like mice, chicks, quail or asfs, but that's not really necessary. They should naturally start eating again in a couple of months.