What morph is my new adopted ball python? Fire/pastel/normal? Something else?

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Not sure why this is double posted with slightly different title and different section.

The color looks a bit different from average normal but it's hard to tell how much of that is just because of the picture. Seems to have pretty clear side pattern, and a bit of blushing and flaming. Not having a good head pic isn't ideal as headstamp can help a lot. Without more information about parentage and better pics, my best guess is Normal with unique color/pattern. Almost looks like a poor quality Axanthic to me, but I'm really doubting that.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Not sure why this is double posted with slightly different title and different section...

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I guess because the OP got tired of waiting for a response, thought no one saw it, & posted again this afternoon, when I was shopping in Lowe's. ;) All better now though, & thanks for mentioning!

My first thought was a faded out Pastel - those markings are very pastel-ish. It has the "brown out line," where the alien heads are two-toned. The clean alien heads themselves have the soft, smooth look and altered shape seen in Pastels. The clear labial scales are a Pastel trait, and the irises are Pastel, too. (Everyone says Pastels have green eyes . . . while that seems to mostly hold for the youngsters, my adults have all had that orange highlight at the top of the iris.) So, good chance that it's the mix.

That color, could be a Pastel Axanthic. . . . But I don't know if the eye of a Pastel Axanthic would have that color or not, tbh. If the animal is under stress, that will fade them out, as well.

Desert (the old mutation no one works with because of the repro problems), though, will do similar things to the markings.

Like nikkubus said, we'd need a head pic to give better guesses.

Very well could be faded Pastel. How big is it? For whatever reason it still looked kind of young in the pic to me, but of course I have no idea how big the decor is as reference.

Nearly 13yo pastel that’s been with me for 12yrs as of today for reference.
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Yep, then Pastel sounds like it's right. Butterfly stamp looks pretty clear to me. Guessing right when you got him he was a bit brighter?

Thanks everyone so much for the help- very insightful- I can give a better head pic like you said, but what did you want to see specifically to make it a better one than I showed already? Just the top of his head?


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And for reference, he is 11 years old and I adopted him from a reptile rescue on Monday. They said he fully shed last week.


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(He is just over 3 ft long)


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